Prop up my bike. Length of P11 kickstand is 10 inches?

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I think I have found an elusive side stand. The seller shows the length at 10 inches from top of the pad eye to the tip the flat foot.

It looks legit but there is curved rod welded to the foot. A flip bar to make it easier to catch and put down. I see myself removing that if it is the right length.

Remove that and It looks like the part from the images I have seen in the forum and at Eurothrash as the correct part.

I have the correct bracket on the frame I believe.

Can someone take a quick measurement off their stand and let me know? Full length tip to tip.

Need the clevis pin and spring as well but may be able to order those or fashion them. The length of the spring would be helpful to know as well.
 
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The P11 side stand is identical to the slimline featherbed unit used on Atlas and Dominators. The longer unit sold by Joe at Eurotrash is not an original, but a custom length. I have a P11, P11A, and Ranger 750 and all three work perfectly with the standard unit. The complete stand and parts are available from Andover Norton and several other vendors.

Prop up my bike. Length of P11 kickstand is 10 inches?
 
Ron L said:
The P11 side stand is identical to the slimline featherbed unit used on Atlas and Dominators. The longer unit sold by Joe at Eurotrash is not an original, but a custom length. I have a P11, P11A, and Ranger 750 and all three work perfectly with the standard unit. The complete stand and parts are available from Andover Norton and several other vendors.

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That looks like my frame bracket. With the nut for the spring attached. The approx length of 034038 is my question. The seller shows 10 inches full length of the stable (including the bracket)
 
The trick to welding a cut sidestand so it does not subsequently breaking is to first cut the sidestand in the middle, remove from one part the amount you want to shorten it by. Then drill and tap both ends and screw in a hi tensile threaded section cut from a bolt, leave a gap for a good penetrating weld and chamfer liberally, The hi tensile core will reduce the risk of a subsequent break.
 
When I shortened the side stand on my FJR I just cut the foot off, shortened the leg and re-welded it back on the foot. All the weld pressure is in compression.
I tacked it together at one end to get the angles correct and then finished welded off the bike.
 
Deets55 said:
When I shortened the side stand on my FJR I just cut the foot off, shortened the leg and re-welded it back on the foot. All the weld pressure is in compression.
I tacked it together at one end to get the angles correct and then finished welded off the bike.
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While i don't know how your stand off the FJR works, most stands will allow the bike to lean. Stand legs will be subjected to compression and bending, and the latter will be dominant.
Welds provide multiple crack initiators, which grow rapidly when exposed to bending stresses in particular. As the bearing cross-section diminishes, crack growth will be exponential. That's why I would never weld a side stand leg. Virgin material is safer.

- Knut
 
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mdt-son said:
While i don't know how your stand off the FJR works, most stands will allow the bike to lean. Stand legs will be subjected to compression and bending, and the latter will be dominant.
Welds provide multiple crack initiators, which grow rapidly when exposed to bending stresses in particular. As the bearing cross-section diminishes, crack growth will be exponential. That's why I would never weld a side stand leg. Virgin material is safer.

- Knut
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It would seem to me that making the joint at the foot as Pete has done is much better than mid span but what do I know .. ( unless 50 years in the construction industry counts for something..)
 
mdt-son said:
While i don't know how your stand off the FJR works, most stands will allow the bike to lean. Stand legs will be subjected to compression and bending, and the latter will be dominant.
Welds provide multiple crack initiators, which grow rapidly when exposed to bending stresses in particular. As the bearing cross-section diminishes, crack growth will be exponential. That's why I would never weld a side stand leg. Virgin material is safer.

- Knut
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I doubt this is going to break. Has a V grind, deep root weld and top weld
 
Check this hollow chromed stick out that is attached to a welded on lug. It came with an alloy clamp that never worked. It has a tiny foot and is 9.5" long. Needs another 1/4" removed, but it works. Nobody was selling side stands for P11's when I put that stand on. I probably didn't look very hard though. It has a ball bearing and stiff spring inside. The ball bearing rolls into divots in the lug that hold the stand in the up or down positions. The stand has never fallen down and I've hit some serious squared off edges of invisible (not paying enough attention) pot holes in the road.

Prop up my bike. Length of P11 kickstand is 10 inches?

That side stand has been on the bike for more than 40 years. I don't know the real total survival mileage. I used to ride around without a speedo. The current clock has 12,732 miles on it.
 
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