Stephen_Spencer
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Agreed Ash. However technology and time will likely resolve most issues I believe - and yes, I know that’s not a popular view with some. Truisms though - we humans are a pretty resourceful, adaptable/flexible lot when necessity requires it.In 2018 here in Australia I brought a new 1200 Triumph Thruxton for $17k and a new Norton at the time was $35k+, I have a love of my old Norton which I brought new for $1999 on the road 47 + years ago but a EV Norton, what price would they be and travel our vast land most outback service stations run their own Gens to power everything, you think they are going to cater for EVs charging, and how long it takes to do a recharge and the distant between charge, around the same time 2018 I was at a Harley dealership who had a EV Harley but when asked how far on a charge and was told 125km I just laughed at the salesman, our Sunday rides we clock up 450km sometimes more, maybe things have changes since then but still and of course the faster you go the less distant you will go.
How many EVs travel across the Nullarbor plains from South Aus to West Aus even on motorcycles you got to carry extra fuel as some places the distant between fuel stops is to great, even trains have to refuel 1/2 way across and they have to transport the fuel there first and gen power to be able to pump it in the middle of nowhere.
Then how many times can you drain the batteries before they need replacing at big cost, then what most motorcycle owners want to hear is a roar of the engine not just a winding noise.
So its a big no to any EV in my opinion if I want to do long cross country runs here, might be OK in the UK and Europe but here in Aus its just not practical and now we get idiots in power saying they going to set up charging stations ever 120km, bet that won't happen on the Nullarbor plains or anywhere else in outback Aus.
Then the fuel companies are putting in more charges at a big cost to them and to do a recharge is going to cost just as much as fuel and even with my Land Rover with long range fuel tanks I can fill it up completely in and away in 5 minutes, how long does it take to do a recharge.
Ashley
There will likely be charging stations on the dark side of the moon before they ever reach outback Australia - AKA the ‘Great F#@k All’ (GFA). We don’t even have bitumin to half of it!!
You will likely be able to purchase ICE vehicles/plant for use in the GFA (and others like it) for decades beyond any planned cut off dates - through necessity. That’s were the flexibility comes in - a plan rarely survives first contact. They’ve started shifting implementation dates already through necessity.
By which time battery power will likely be moving aside for next gen technology - whatever that may be. Meanwhile, electrification will continue at pace in urban areas. There will be problems - some of them huge, possibly insurmountable. Some people will be disadvantaged whilst others will profit unfairly. That’s life I suppose.
The aim is emission reduction by volume, not total eradication - that ain’t really possible. Whether a believer in the need for this world changing endeavour or not, I think resisting it’s inevitability could get quite painful over time.
Lets see what the Norton EV looks like and then FE can re-open the poll. I don’t like Norton‘s chances of changing any minds here though! And that’s totally OK I think.
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