Period tires: Dunlop TT100 vs Avon Roadrunner

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Fast Eddie said:
So, when we moved house into town a few years ago that ‘luxury’ workshop wasn’t possible. So I’ve now got a 10’x15’ shed and I set myself a limit of 3 bikes. 3 bikes fit in the shed with room to manoeuvre. And 3 bikes seems to be a quantity I can keep on top of and develop somewhere close to what I actually want.
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Thanks for the reply and appreciated.
 
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Fullauto said:
I don't see tyre mileage as an issue. Like I've said before, most tyres on Commandos get changed because they are old rather thn worn out.
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I can vouch for that. I took mine for it's biennial road worthiness inspection today, and the inspector called me over and pointed out the tiny cracks in the sidewall of the front tyre. On the ground I couldn't see them, but he had it up on a ramp over a metre high with a big LED inspection lamp and they were much more obvious. He just cited age as the cause. Needless to say it failed and I'm now shopping for Avon Roadriders (and a ramp :rolleyes:).

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cliffa.
 
That is why I don't have any problem with the idea of running a BT45 100/90 19 front tire on the rear.
Better than changing to a 18" rear rim. I prefer the appearance of common size wheels all around anyway.
 
elefantrider said:
That is why I don't have any problem with the idea of running a BT45 100/90 19 front tire on the rear.
Better than changing to a 18" rear rim. I prefer the appearance of common size wheels all around anyway.
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I had BT45's on my Yamaha TR1, and I didn't like the way it went over banding or the raised edges of white lines and pedestrian crossings. In fact quite unnerving sometimes. Switched to Avon's and that behavior was history. I have to admit to being an Avon fan. Had Storms on my Daytona 955i and they were superb.
 
elefantrider said:
That is why I don't have any problem with the idea of running a BT45 100/90 19 front tire on the rear.
Better than changing to a 18" rear rim. I prefer the appearance of common size wheels all around anyway.
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Why not an Avon Roadrider 19 inch on the rear then?
 
To my eyes, the BT45 tread pattern looks better with my bike and I hear they are a bit lighter.
But a unviversal is probably deeper than a bt45 front.
 
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Time Warp said:
I picked the Road Attack radials up today and after a lengthy discussion am in no doubt these will outperform any bias ply tyre.
I was told the ride being a radial will be superior also and have made (with wide rim cost) a great choice in general even if expensive.
These will be run at around 38 / 42 psi.

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Enjoy, not sure yet on the life of the rear, but they make the bike feel so much lighter and and handle better. Steel belt radials are a step up. The Roadrider was good, but the steel radials are even better.
 
Madnorton said:
Enjoy, not sure yet on the life of the rear, but they make the bike feel so much lighter and and handle better. Steel belt radials are a step up. The Roadrider was good, but the steel radials are even better.
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MN...The warehouse I bought the tyres from (I also got Trail Attacks for my AT/DCT there last year) is run by a guy with 100 motorcycles and seems very knowledgeable to say the least.
We must have chatted for a good half hour and I probably learnt more about motorcycle tyres in that time than I had known in the 40+ years previous.

I asked about the RideRider verses radial Classic Attack and was given the full run down on the construction difference for one and was in no doubt by the end of that conversation that a radial is the only realistic choice given the expense of wide rims.
I will leave it at that.
 
Fullauto said:
Well, that's right. Looks are the most important thing.
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To each his own. Looks ARE important.
Which is also one of the reasons why I would never run a Mikuni (great on my honda), or WM4 rims.
Also important is seeing experience of NYC and CNW who seem to like the Bridgestones.
Avon Roadriders are not the answer for everyone.
 
JimC said:
Looks are the prime reason for the Commando’s popularity. That and the masochistic nature of Commando owners.
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I couldn't disagree more. The real reason Commandos are so popular is that they are such a great ride. The reason a lot of other bikes from the period were well thought of in the day was that they were fast in a straight line but were pigs to ride. Performance becomes obsolete when something new and a bit faster comes along. A really nice, captivating ride is rare and a true pleasure. A bike bought for its looks is just a tool for poseurs. Masochism doesn't come into it. Unless you are a masochistic poseur, of course.
 
Is there a consensus on Roadriders vs Roadrunners?

I've got a pair of Roadriders on my bike currently and really like them; very sure footed and predictable. Does the older style tread pattern of the Roadrunner R2 and F2 have a similar feel to them?

Avon claims an "A25 race compound" for the R2 (rear tire) and an "A30 race compound" for the F2 (front tire). Does that equate to feeling great but wearing out fast? If so, how fast?

These will be going on a road-going 650SS with 19" front and rear. If they feel the same, a more original looking tire would be preferable, but I'd rather have a good handling tire than "originality".
 
t ingermanson said:
I've got a pair of Roadriders on my bike currently and really like them; very sure footed and predictable. Does the older style tread pattern of the Roadrunner R2 and F2 have a similar feel to them?
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No. I had the old Roadrunner on the rear and an ME33 Lazer on the front (and they were a bit old until recently) and even when they were new they didnt hold a patch to the new Roadrunners. Although I think the Metzler was better than the Roadrunner.
 
Avon fan here, but also run the BT45's on one Norton and like them also. The K 81's back in the 70's only had one chance on the Honda, they seemed like they were very twitchy to me. The profile now seems like it has changed??
 
t ingermanson said:
Is there a consensus on Roadriders vs Roadrunners?

I've got a pair of Roadriders on my bike currently and really like them; very sure footed and predictable. Does the older style tread pattern of the Roadrunner R2 and F2 have a similar feel to them?

Avon claims an "A25 race compound" for the R2 (rear tire) and an "A30 race compound" for the F2 (front tire). Does that equate to feeling great but wearing out fast? If so, how fast?

These will be going on a road-going 650SS with 19" front and rear. If they feel the same, a more original looking tire would be preferable, but I'd rather have a good handling tire than "originality".
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I've worn out several sets of A25/A30s. Riding with fast company on late model bikes, they enable me to hang with the plastic bikes and create respect for the "wow, it's got skinny tires and you can actually see through it" Commando. Yes, the rears wear out quickly, 2500 miles or more depending on how tolerant you are of sketchy remaining tread. Fronts last so long it doesn't matter. Of late, I'm running a soft racing front and standard street tires on the back. Loose out back, Rock of Gibraltar up front. Nice long lasting combo.
 
xbacksideslider said:
I've worn out several sets of A25/A30s. Riding with fast company on late model bikes, they enable me to hang with the plastic bikes and create respect for the "wow, it's got skinny tires and you can actually see through it" Commando. Yes, the rears wear out quickly, 2500 miles or more depending on how tolerant you are of sketchy remaining tread. Fronts last so long it doesn't matter. Of late, I'm running a soft racing front and standard street tires on the back. Loose out back, Rock of Gibraltar up front. Nice long lasting combo.
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That's great info! Thank you.
 
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