P11 Handlebars

elefantrider · Mar 20, 2017

Were there 2 different types/designs of handlebars used depending on the years? How were they different?

CanukNortonNut · Mar 20, 2017

Check out the "2015 Norton Rally P11 photos" here in this p11 section. I think there are variations to the original handlebars on the crossbar location and the total width of the bars. 32"-33" ish??? Some aftermarket bars are narrower than stock. I got some information at the Yahoo P11 website.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/nor ... =463990195
Try there as another option.
Cheers,
Thomas

BillT · Mar 20, 2017

P11/P11A bars the cross brace is about an inch down from the top of the bend
Ranger brace is flush with the top.

Check the literature on the P11 thread I did a few years ago. Just search 'the P11 thread' - pics of original brochures and restored bikes

Make sure you read the text under the brochures - the bikes in the pictures aren't always the bike the ad says it is! The bike photographed for the ad was often outdated.

Mike B · Mar 21, 2017

According to Walridge Motors, two different "pullbacks" were used.

Mike B

elefantrider · Mar 22, 2017

Thanks fellas. I am looking for bars like these with the lower crossbar. I like the gradual shape of the bends and height on this bar. Doesn't look to have too much pullback. The crossbar looks really low, I am not sure if it clears the knob, does not look to be the case on this photo.

BillT · Mar 22, 2017

The bars on both bikes in this ad would be Part# 031651 (or 03-1651)

The ad says P11A, but it is obviously a P11. Parts manual says N15CS, G15CS, P11 and P11A use this same bar. From what I've seen, the book is accurate in this case

Mike B · Mar 23, 2017

elefantrider said:
Thanks fellas. I am looking for bars like these with the lower crossbar. I like the gradual shape of the bends and height on this bar. Doesn't look to have too much pullback. The crossbar looks really low, I am not sure if it clears the knob, does not look to be the case on this photo.

Those bars with the lower crossbar are from an SS Commando, also an Interpol. I have them on my bike, and it does not clear the knob. It also puts them in an
uncomfortable position with the steering dampener installed.
Mike B.

Ron L · Mar 25, 2017

SS Commando bars do not have as much "pullback" as the early P11 bars.

elefantrider · Mar 25, 2017

SS bars would be great if the crossbar was a little higher. I think US Commando bars are the same but without the crossbar.

I think the p11 bars are too short or have too much pullback if you need to stand on pegs. Doesn't feel right.

CanukNortonNut · Mar 25, 2017

elefantrider said:
SS bars would be great if the crossbar was a little higher. I think US Commando bars are the same but without the crossbar.

I think the p11 bars are too short or have too much pullback if you need to stand on pegs. Doesn't feel right.

I thought the pullback was to set the rider further back in the saddle? I started out with a parts bike and the handlebars never came with the boxes of parts with what I got. I purchased a H/bar from Walridge Motors. These came with the crossbar horizontal at the same height as the hand grips (aka Ranger as per BillT's description) but the end to end width across was 30.5". I am not sure if this is to the original width but that is what I have to work with.
Cheers,
Thomas

Ron L · Mar 25, 2017

CanukNortonNut said:
I thought the pullback was to set the rider further back in the saddle? I started out with a parts bike and the handlebars never came with the boxes of parts with what I got. I purchased a H/bar from Walridge Motors. These came with the crossbar horizontal at the same height as the hand grips (aka Ranger as per BillT's description) but the end to end width across was 30.5". I am not sure if this is to the original width but that is what I have to work with.
Cheers,
Thomas

Since the P11 was designed for desert racing, you might be correct. The desert racers tend to ride with their body weight as far back as possible to lighten the front end in the soft terrain.
I understand that the bars Mike Partridge provides are a couple inches narrower than the originals, but are the closest to the originals as any modern production bars.

elefantrider · Mar 29, 2017

Does anyone have a used set of low crossbar '67 model bars they'd want to get rid of? Used bars would better match the rough appearance of my bike. Contact me via PM.