Marc Marquez MotoGP champion for the sixth time!

Where and when was it when, on the last lap, Marquez leading, and Rossi came up the inside, forcing Marquez - if he was to hold his line - to tip in onto and touching Rossi, thereby "forcing" but also legalizing Rossi's move - cutting across and over a piece of ground not the track and enabling Rossi to cross the line before Marquez?

My respect for Rossi was lost at that moment. Legalistic, calculated, unethical.
 
xbacksideslider said:
Where and when was it when, on the last lap, Marquez leading, and Rossi came up the inside, forcing Marquez - if he was to hold his line - to tip in onto and touching Rossi, thereby "forcing" but also legalizing Rossi's move - cutting across and over a piece of ground not the track and enabling Rossi to cross the line before Marquez?

My respect for Rossi was lost at that moment. Legalistic, calculated, unethical.
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Are you talking about Sepang 2015? There’s a good clip here which shows the jury is still out on this one, if you slow the clip down you see that Marquez did touch Rossi first. This, as you say, is kind of inevitable if Marquez was “to hold his line”. But, there was plenty of space on the track and IMHO Rossi’s move, up to that point, was a legitimate (if close) overtaking manoeuvre. IMHO Marquez should have accepted that Rossi was there rather than believe that line was still his even though another rider was there.

But like I said, the jury is still out it seems, I haven’t read all of the 6000+ comments posted, but the few I did read were enough to show there’s a split in who folk think was to blame...

 
There was another rider who rode the ragged edge between crashing and not, blurring that line, sometimes coming back from crossing it, sometimes not. He too was considered reckless by some of his peers. There were conflicts. His name was Simoncelli.
 
that video is a tough call. Marquez kept his speed and a wider line. Rossi dove under him to beat him to the apex, but knew he had to slow down to make the corner, so he beat Marquez to a spot on the corner, then checked his throttle to scrub some speed and block Marquez's line. This caused Marquez to have to react by either braking, changing his line, or contacting Rossi.

In car racing, this happens all the time and it's legal. If you know someone is going to get under you and block the fastest line, you have to plan on altering your line to keep that from happening or accept that your line will be blocked by him beating you to the apex... even if his line is slower and blocks yours. If you don't contest the possibility of that move by changing your own line, the other guy will be ahead of you, going slower at the apex, and blocking your intended fastest line, but that's part of racing strategy or so I've been told.

Racer's personalities aside, I wonder how others see that scenario ...?
 
There’s a clip on YouTube that shows the highlights from the whole race which provides a lot of context. Basically, BOTH riders were doing this to each other lap after lap, getting closer and closer.

Right up until the point it got too close, it was considered brilliant racing.

Six of one and half a dozen of the other it seems.
 
My point is that IMO Rossi had anticipated that exact last lap last corner scenario and knew that by provoking contact he could then flip the bike left, leave the track surface, cut the corner, and grab the lead LEGALLY. Rossi used the rules to cheat. Rossi gamed the rules with premeditation at Sepang(thanks Eddie) because of that track’s unique pre-finish line chicane.
 
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