Manx GP formula Classic - wheres the Nortons ??

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Daveh,
We have what are known as 'periods' in historic racing. Period 3 ends at 1962, period 4 at 1972, period 5 at 1982, period 6 1992. You find that except in period 3, you are always running in a mixed grid of thunderbikes, superbikes and two strokes. My bike is a thunderbike, but our guys don't identify that as a class. I'd usually get to race in period 4, which is dominated by methanol fuelled 1100cc cb750 Hondas, which effectively kill off most other bikes. We rarely see a commando racing, and the triples never come out to play. There are a couple of ducatis in Period 5 races, none in period 6. For the last few years I've been promoting an agenda to get the 'thunderbikes' from all periods onto the race grid together without the two strokes and superbikes. A class limited to air cooled fourstroke two valve singles, twins and triples, run in capacity classes and heats. The guys are slowly coming around to the idea, but the 'period' concept is stuck in their minds and they find it very difficult to move away from it.
Personally I'd love to have a go against an 80s 851 Ducati Pantah or a 70s Ducati 900, but they way our meetings are run, it cannot happen.
What I am on about is running bikes of similar technology in the same races without regard to age. the differences in development arising from age are much less than they are from totally different technology. I know I can win races with a two stroke, if we were playing for sheep stations, that is what you would race - never a thunderbike. I ride the Seeley because I love it, but the opportunity to show its real potential against similar bikes, is never there. It is extremely frustrating, the racing doesn't justify the expense when you already know the outcome. A good 350cc period 4 two stroke on alcohol can beat anything in our historic racing.
 
The American BOTT is a really good idea, but I believe they allow water-cooled four valve motors to be used, and the capacities allowed seem to destroy the 'level playing field', and the triples are excluded.
 
acotrel said:
Daveh,
We have what are known as 'periods' in historic racing. Period 3 ends at 1962, period 4 at 1972, period 5 at 1982, period 6 1992. You find that except in period 3, you are always running in a mixed grid of thunderbikes, superbikes and two strokes. My bike is a thunderbike, but our guys don't identify that as a class. I'd usually get to race in period 4, which is dominated by methanol fuelled 1100cc cb750 Hondas, which effectively kill off most other bikes. We rarely see a commando racing, and the triples never come out to play. There are a couple of ducatis in Period 5 races, none in period 6. For the last few years I've been promoting an agenda to get the 'thunderbikes' from all periods onto the race grid together without the two strokes and superbikes. A class limited to air cooled fourstroke two valve singles, twins and triples, run in capacity classes and heats. The guys are slowly coming around to the idea, but the 'period' concept is stuck in their minds and they find it very difficult to move away from it.
Personally I'd love to have a go against an 80s 851 Ducati Pantah or a 70s Ducati 900, but they way our meetings are run, it cannot happen.
What I am on about is running bikes of similar technology in the same races without regard to age. the differences in development arising from age are much less than they are from totally different technology. I know I can win races with a two stroke, if we were playing for sheep stations, that is what you would race - never a thunderbike. I ride the Seeley because I love it, but the opportunity to show its real potential against similar bikes, is never there. It is extremely frustrating, the racing doesn't justify the expense when you already know the outcome. A good 350cc period 4 two stroke on alcohol can beat anything in our historic racing.

Thanks for explaining, Acotrei. I can see why you're frustrated by the silly rules. When Honda CB350s began to dominate the grids in the 350 class here, at one point they stipulated that Hondas - only Hondas - must run drum brakes. I assume this was to slow them down a bit! Ironically, Hondas saved the junior class of classic racing because they are not as expensive as Aermacchis, AJSs, etc, so more people can go out and have fun and they can fill the grids.

Dave
 
There are two decent ways to go historic racing in Oz:
Period 3 - Jawa two valve engine in replica featherbed frame with Triumph 5 speed box and the expensive drum brake.
Period 5 - Yamaha RD250LC
The rest is expensive foolishness.
 
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