Luddites unite…

Whatever belt & pulley system, and electric motor those are, they need to be on any electric bike I would ever even REMOTELY consider buying.



You're late to the party....

My Dad rigged a 3/4 Briggs & Stratton kick start washing machine motor on a bicycle, woulda been early 40's.
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concours said:
Whatever belt & pulley system, and electric motor those are, they need to be on any electric bike I would ever even REMOTELY consider buying.

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You're late to the party....

My Dad rigged a 3/4 Briggs & Stratton kick start washing machine motor on a bicycle, woulda been early 40's.
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Different animal altogether.
 
robs ss said:
My otherwise great car has a truly ironic inane feature...
About 10 seconds after driving off, a message pops up on the screen warning me that I must keep my eyes on the road - FFS!! Have not read all the words yet because... I'M DRIVING!
It has an ACCEPT and DECLINE button. Don't know why but I have not hit the decline button - yet.
If they were serious, surely the car would not move until this little contract was agreed to?
Grrrr!!

I think I am both a luddite and a curmudgeon!
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That light is not meant for you Rob, its meant for the rest of the ignoroids who are already checking their text messages before they are out of the driveway.

My Tacoma is 6 years old and I STILL don't have a sound comprehension of all the computerized smart car crap that is incorporated.

Why?

Because half the crap they built into the operations system I don't give a a $hit about.
And I am a stickler for comprehensive understanding of all operations/systems no matter the gizmo/vehicle but so much of the tech incorporated is a major WGAS.
Just superfluous fancy high tech do nothing features that are designed to break and generate more dealer maintenance @ $120 per because a little blinking light says so.
The manual on operating the in-car computer/audio/navigation system is TWICE as thick as the manual addressing the operation, care and maintenance of the car and it mechanized systems.

I do have to say some of it is really cool though, gotta' take the good with the bad.

Luddites unite…
 
Our ‘21 Grnd Cherokee will turn engine off every time it stops moving … I asked dealer to disable before Jo-Ann brought it home , he say would void warranty ! Then pointed out a button on dash to disable it , worst idea ever , rare I remember to press it right off , once into the lower part of town and the multitude of 4-way stops usually gets it done … ridiculous beyond reason ! Who thinks this stuff up ???
 
Craig said:
Our ‘21 Grnd Cherokee … ridiculous beyond reason ! Who thinks this stuff up ???
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Climate alarmists...that have invested interests in starter motor inventory 🤣
We have the same model vehicle...I actually prefer my 09 Cherokee for simplicity over the newer one...which has the
Mercedes motor gearbox and diff.
 
Craig said:
Our ‘21 Grnd Cherokee will turn engine off every time it stops moving … I asked dealer to disable before Jo-Ann brought it home , he say would void warranty ! Then pointed out a button on dash to disable it , worst idea ever , rare I remember to press it right off , once into the lower part of town and the multitude of 4-way stops usually gets it done … ridiculous beyond reason ! Who thinks this stuff up ???
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My car is the same - so now every time I start it I release the electric handbrake button and press the auto-off disable button - second nature now👍
 
Both of our cars have that start-stop function. But even crazier, they both have sensors which detect that the car in front has moved, and then starts the engine. That’s something that would otherwise happen simply by me releasing the brake.

So a bucket full of sensors, and semi conductors, and programming, and complexity… simply to achieve what would happen anyway as soon as I release the brake…:rolleyes:
 
On my Range Rover I've just had my local mechanic disable the bloody dinging noise which happened if the door was open with the engine running, or if I didn't fasten my seatbelt. Why do I need to be notified that the door is open, I can see that! Modern life....AAAARGH!!
 
Wife’s Acura has outside mirrors that angle down and in when transmission is put in reverse - again , sensors , switches , servo motors - all complex crap to save you from changing the position of your head an inch or two … I know when this system breaks it will be in the “ look at the curb ” position . Sigh
 
I asked an engineer friend why all the electronic add on stuff like traction control etc. He said it all goes back to
anti lock brakes. Once that system is on the car they can take that data and do all kinds of stuff cheaply and tout it as more wonderful stuff that you just will love to have.
Anti lock brakes are a huge leap forward saving my sorry ass at least three times in the last ten years. Maybe the tyre inflation warning makes sense..MAYBE...but it sure costs a lot. The seat belt, door and whatever nanny
dinging is beyond the pale.
Love that simple washing machine. My old lady tells me once the load is initialized on hers you cannot open it
so forget throwing in that missed sock.
And what is the basis for ALL this new crap? MONEY and CONTROL at every level.
 
KiwiShane said:
Climate alarmists...that have invested interests in starter motor inventory 🤣
We have the same model vehicle...I actually prefer my 09 Cherokee for simplicity over the newer one...which has the
Mercedes motor gearbox and diff.
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Funny that , we also traded our ‘09 for the ‘21 😉 our 5th Jeep previous ones have lasted well , without the auto stop feature …
 
Steer by wire ,,,,,,

I drove a Honda Ridgeline recently, and it soon became apparent that the thing employed steer by wire technology.

Now, I am not opposed to the safety factor of correction to lane drift, but I question what redundancy exists in the system.

My sister in law drove a Honda, she claims she lost all steering control, the car drifted into the center barrier, then drifted right across two lanes of traffic, finally she braked it to a stop on the shoulder. Her demands to know the cause of the failure was ignored by the dealer. She now drives a Toyota.
Fortunately, only her car was totaled, but easy to see that a horrific loss of life accident could have resulted.

Perhaps buyers should be advised that steer by wire technology is being employed when they sign the purchase order. It must be a law for the dealer will not volunteer. As for me, I will ask if a prospective new vehicle uses steer by wire, and if so, buy something else.

Slick
 
Must say that getting my stone age classic mini has been a great relief from all the modern shite out there. Not missing much of the high tech stuff at all. It goes when I want it to, stops when I need it to. I can hear the engine, feel the road, smell the fumes.
 
Great car always loved them. However, I would not like to be involved in an accident in one on the motorway.
...just saying...
 
Craig said:
Funny that , we also traded our ‘09 for the ‘21 😉 our 5th Jeep previous ones have lasted well , without the auto stop feature …
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I've still got the 2 diesel jeeps (good for towing) the 09 has done big mileage now and is a good work wagon.....I had a petrol one before that ...thirsty as ⛽ still got too many bloody buttons though 🤣
 

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Great car always loved them. However, I would not like to be involved in an accident in one on the motorway.
...just saying...
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Yes, not my plan either. Course this is a motorcycle forum so we should all know those kind of risks and just deal with them.
 
Becoming difficult to find real hard news , no paper delivery anymore , online stuff just plain slanted , getting too old I guess maybe 🧐 TV is more entertainment themed ….
 
No one has even alluded to the cost influence all the newer smart-sensor technology has created in getting something like a crunched fender fixed.
You will cry when the estimate comes up.
My body guy of 30 years turns newer cars away. The software for repairs is too expensive and the time needed to repair is ridiculous.
I have a friend with a 22' Mercedes full size SUV. His daughter backed his Ford pickup into the back of it.
A minor to barely-medium crunch.
The repair costs were 5 figures for the Benz alone. His insurance company threatened to drop him.
He filed the claim, dropped them, and found a new insurance company.
 
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