Just chasing some info regarding some info regarding purchasing fuel tanks form India

Hi Baz , have head of stories as you described with mountings not correct ,tap outlets in wrong position etc although i think that was on a Trident tank but also other tanks not fitting .
Was hoping over the years the quality control may have improved but unless you know somebody who has bought a recent product ,how do you know for sure .
What was company you purchased the tank from ?
A a lot of them seem to sell tanks that are made from different manufactures and dont actually make the tank themselves and I think it preferable to deal with the manufacturer direct if possible .
I did find a company on Ebay that claimed to be based in Australia and get their parts manufactured by their factory in India etc and I thought that may be a better way to go .
So i did a google search on them to see if they are genuine , which revealed...... nothing .
I believe a lot of scammers claim they are in Australia but are actually in China or wherever which makes me nervous .
I am guessing that is a worldwide problem though .
I can't remember the sellers name for the gold star tank
But the Firebird scrambler tank that I haven't yet used came from royal choppers a few months ago
It looks pretty good
And it fits the frame but I've never filled it
 
I can't remember the sellers name for the gold star tank
But the Firebird scrambler tank that I haven't yet used came from royal choppers a few months ago
It looks pretty good
And it fits the frame but I've never filled it
Just found the seller of the gold star tank
It was "vintage24x7"
 
Apart from the fuel outlet tappings being slightly closer to the rear of the tank than they were on the plastic tank that it came with, the new, raw steel Emgo tank that came separately with my bike fits well, doesn’t leak and looks great.
 
Hi marinatlas,
Were any of the fiberglass tanks you bought from RGM? I have one of their Fastback fiberglass tanks that are supposed to be safe with ethanol fuel and want to use it this spring.

Ed
Something that may be worth looking out for .
The fastback tank that was on my bike when I bought it looked perfect as it had just been repainted . However ,on inspection the inside fibreglass was seriously in bad shape so I treated with a proper tank sealer (the instruction said ,with a glass tank to put a handfull of screws in the tanks ,shake them about to rough up the surface for a good bond etc ).
Two weeks later ,the sides of the tank had some serious ripples so I sanded the paint off only to find that the top of the tank from just behing the fuel cap to the back had about 25 mm in depth of bog covering some severe damge .Why they that totally astounded me at the time .
I then bought a new tank out of the UK from RGM motors ( I am sure it was ) which was supposed to be modern fuel compliant and as a precaution sealed it as well .
This is the tank that has now split along the seams and was leaking fuel even though I had sealed this tank as well ( using an endoscope revealed the sealer had cracked in certain areas ).
One thing to be aware of is at low rpm there is a fair bit of vibration tranferred to the tank and even though it is rubber mounted this must stress the edge where the top half is bonded /glued to the base .Plus the roads here in Australia are a bit like moto cross tracks in places ,well at least where i ride anyway .
Of interest ,both the original tank and the tank I replaced it with were made by ADR Mouldings . I dont know if they made all the fibreglass tanks for Fastbacks.
My google search tells me they are still in business making fibregalss products but couldnt see anything about fuel tanks though and be interested to know who made your tank . Both my ADR moulding tanks have stickers on the underside saying they made them .
Probably ,mounted correctly with the right supporting rubber under the tunnel at the back you wont have a problem
hope this may of been some help
 
Just found the seller of the gold star tank
It was "vintage24x7"
Thanks for the feedback .
That was one of the companies I was looking at as the picture of their Alloy tanks on Ebay looks pretty good but was wondering about theier service /reliability .
There is an UK based company mentioned on a previous thread that sells the same tank (I think )but with the exchange rate it makes more sense if i can get one from a company closer to Australia .
 
The seller that I bought my tank from was named "rsvintageparts2014" When I bought the tank it wasn't listed on the USA ebay, but was listed in the UK ebay, so I looked for it and did not find it. Someone from the original thread posted the link to the UK ebay and I ordered it from there. I bought an unpainted interstate tank. At the time I bought my tank, I paid $154. american which included free shipping from india... That's just an incredible price for what turned out to be a good tank.
the comment where your dad said "get rid of that thing ,you will never fix it "
Was that a reference to the bike or the fuel tank . :)
 
Very likely a Fastback then. If you really wan't to know then Andover Norton, the UK NOC and VMCC have the records although they will very likey charge a fee for checking.
Thanks ,will look into it .
Years ago i found a register where people were recording models ,egine no,s etc of all the Norton that were still on the road .
cannot remember if it was a USA based site though .
 
Thanks ,will look into it .
Years ago i found a register where people were recording models ,egine no,s etc of all the Norton that were still on the road .
cannot remember if it was a USA based site though .
I know of two places for this. Greg Marsh who posts regularly on this site.


And a much larger file VIN list spreadsheet in the Files part of the Norton Commando Facebook directory

Obviously neither is complete but I understand neither the NOC records nor Andover Nortons records are complete either. But as zotz said you have major pieces from at least 3 different bikes anyway so I don't know any of these will help you much.
 
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the comment where your dad said "get rid of that thing ,you will never fix it "
Was that a reference to the bike or the fuel tank . :)
I originally bought my commando when I was 19. It had a burned up stator from the rotor rubbing against it. My friend, "Animal", who owned it at the time, would charge the battery and ride it around until it would die, then he would truck it home and charge the battery again only to repeat it all the next weekend. 🤣 This went on for a whole summer. He had no mechanical skills whatsoever and got frustrated so he sold it to me for $500. When I brought it home, my dad was giving me a hard time about buying it.

I explained to him that it was a 3 case design and that modern motorcycles were now single case designs so the commando was destined to be a classic and that I was going to fix it up.... That's when he responded with his infamous comment to get rid of that thing,... because you'll never fix it..

My best friend always said to me that I'm going to fail more than the average person because I'm fearless and take on stuff that is way beyond my capabilities. I try to remember that when I screw something up, because the people who fail the least are the ones who never push the envelope... All the work I've done on my commando has been an exercise in learning, being meticulous, persistence, and being fearless.

My dad was the foreman of a finishing shop and I worked with him from when I was in my teens. Painting a gas tank black with a fuel resistant clear coat is easy for me. My pinstripes and norton logo are also painted from stencils, not plastic decals applied to the tank... I think my tank looks ok to me for $154. plus some paint...

Just chasing some info regarding some info regarding purchasing fuel tanks form India
 
Something that may be worth looking out for .
The fastback tank that was on my bike when I bought it looked perfect as it had just been repainted . However ,on inspection the inside fibreglass was seriously in bad shape so I treated with a proper tank sealer (the instruction said ,with a glass tank to put a handfull of screws in the tanks ,shake them about to rough up the surface for a good bond etc ).
Two weeks later ,the sides of the tank had some serious ripples so I sanded the paint off only to find that the top of the tank from just behing the fuel cap to the back had about 25 mm in depth of bog covering some severe damge .Why they that totally astounded me at the time .
I then bought a new tank out of the UK from RGM motors ( I am sure it was ) which was supposed to be modern fuel compliant and as a precaution sealed it as well .
This is the tank that has now split along the seams and was leaking fuel even though I had sealed this tank as well ( using an endoscope revealed the sealer had cracked in certain areas ).
One thing to be aware of is at low rpm there is a fair bit of vibration tranferred to the tank and even though it is rubber mounted this must stress the edge where the top half is bonded /glued to the base .Plus the roads here in Australia are a bit like moto cross tracks in places ,well at least where i ride anyway .
Of interest ,both the original tank and the tank I replaced it with were made by ADR Mouldings . I dont know if they made all the fibreglass tanks for Fastbacks.
My google search tells me they are still in business making fibregalss products but couldnt see anything about fuel tanks though and be interested to know who made your tank . Both my ADR moulding tanks have stickers on the underside saying they made them .
Probably ,mounted correctly with the right supporting rubber under the tunnel at the back you wont have a problem
hope this may of been some help
Thank you Wheelie for the detailed info. I feel a bit safer now.

Ed
 
I originally bought my commando when I was 19. It had a burned up stator from the rotor rubbing against it. My friend, "Animal", who owned it at the time, would charge the battery and ride it around until it would die, then he would truck it home and charge the battery again only to repeat it all the next weekend. 🤣 This went on for a whole summer. He had no mechanical skills whatsoever and got frustrated so he sold it to me for $500. When I brought it home, my dad was giving me a hard time about buying it.

I explained to him that it was a 3 case design and that modern motorcycles were now single case designs so the commando was destined to be a classic and that I was going to fix it up.... That's when he responded with his infamous comment to get rid of that thing,... because you'll never fix it..

My best friend always said to me that I'm going to fail more than the average person because I'm fearless and take on stuff that is way beyond my capabilities. I try to remember that when I screw something up, because the people who fail the least are the ones who never push the envelope... All the work I've done on my commando has been an exercise in learning, being meticulous, persistence, and being fearless.

My dad was the foreman of a finishing shop and I worked with him from when I was in my teens. Painting a gas tank black with a fuel resistant clear coat is easy for me. My pinstripes and norton logo are also painted from stencils, not plastic decals applied to the tank... I think my tank looks ok to me for $154. plus some paint...

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Am amusing story that one .
A friend of mine said to me when I 1st bought the bike said "you must like doing things over and over again ".He must have met the bloke you bought the bike off . :)
A credit to you as yours is a nice bike ,
By the way ,what are the wheels off.?
 
I know of two places for this. Greg Marsh who posts regularly on this site.


And a much larger file VIN list spreadsheet in the Files part of the Norton Commando Facebook directory

Obviously neither is complete but I understand neither the NOC records nor Andover Nortons records are complete either. But as zotz said you have major pieces from at least 3 different bikes anyway so I don't know any of these will help you much.
Thank you ,
At least that will give me a place to start looking .
All the import papers into Australia from California said was it was a 69 Commando .
When I get some life skills I will post a photo of the bike and as you will see it definitely wasnt a Fastback originally as it has the small triangular side panels and the center mounted oil tank which compromises the space for the air cleaner behind the 34 mm Mikuni a fair bit (It uses a cut down K and N filter which isnt exactly conducive to optimal high speed running though .
If i can just find out by the Chasis no what it is based on as I am not pedantic about matching no,s etc . obviously with an 850 engine but was wondering if it had originally come out with a Combat engine that probably self destructed hence the 850 but the clutch and gearbox is still the earlier version .
Can anyone tell me if ,when built the engine ,gearbox and chasis numbers were the same as all my reseach says is they were a bit haphazard at times with this .
Once I fitted a O ring to the clutch push rod shaft ,it solved the gearbox oil seeping along the pushrod onto the clutch plates problem which eventually caused the clutch slip .
This is a modification that everyone should do if the haven't already . Just my thoughts based on my experience on that one .
I think they changed the steering geometry from the early model and went to a wider front tyre to make them more stable ,as try as I might I couldnt solve the 85 mph Norton weave but a steering damper fixed that problem .
and so the search continues .
 
Until the 850 mk3's all the three 6 digit numbers on gearbox, engine and red plate on headstock matched.
 
Am amusing story that one .
A friend of mine said to me when I 1st bought the bike said "you must like doing things over and over again ".He must have met the bloke you bought the bike off . :)
A credit to you as yours is a nice bike ,
By the way ,what are the wheels off.?
Thanks, (european yamaha seca 550 wheels)
 
Thank you ,
At least that will give me a place to start looking .
All the import papers into Australia from California said was it was a 69 Commando .
When I get some life skills I will post a photo of the bike and as you will see it definitely wasnt a Fastback originally as it has the small triangular side panels and the center mounted oil tank which compromises the space for the air cleaner behind the 34 mm Mikuni a fair bit (It uses a cut down K and N filter which isnt exactly conducive to optimal high speed running though .
If i can just find out by the Chasis no what it is based on as I am not pedantic about matching no,s etc . obviously with an 850 engine but was wondering if it had originally come out with a Combat engine that probably self destructed hence the 850 but the clutch and gearbox is still the earlier version .
Can anyone tell me if ,when built the engine ,gearbox and chasis numbers were the same as all my reseach says is they were a bit haphazard at times with this .
Once I fitted a O ring to the clutch push rod shaft ,it solved the gearbox oil seeping along the pushrod onto the clutch plates problem which eventually caused the clutch slip .
This is a modification that everyone should do if the haven't already . Just my thoughts based on my experience on that one .
I think they changed the steering geometry from the early model and went to a wider front tyre to make them more stable ,as try as I might I couldnt solve the 85 mph Norton weave but a steering damper fixed that problem .
and so the search continues .
Hi ,Thanks for the info re the Greg Marsh register .
It has a wealth of info about Compliance plates ,where they are on different models ,what side of the headstock the frame numbers are stamped on etc .
My bike has the frame number 130727 stamped on the compliance plate which had been painted over .not sure whether this was done in the USA as the bike supposedly came from California or by the supposed Norton expert in Australia I bought the bike off .
Here it gets more interesting .
After reading the info on Gregs Norton register I used some actetone to remove the black paint off the compliance tag that was factory riveted in place .
I believe this plate was initially painted red and had info like date manufactured ,model type etc written on it but the frame number was actually stamped on this plate .
What I have found is that all that information has been sanded off (roughly too by the way ) but the stamped number would be original as that area is untouched .
Why was that done ? what could be achieved as if the bike was stolen or a write off you would still be able to tell by the frame number stamped on this plate .
Only thing i can think of is like in Australia if you fit a different engine in a car, you have to get a machinery inspection done a modified compliance plate to make it legal.
By removing the original information ,somewhere this has been bypassed and the 850 engine fitted .
With the info from the register regarding the size of the frame tubing ,at least I have found that it was the British made version using Reynolds imperial size tubing and not the metric size the Italians used.
That alone is a story in itself .
According to what the register has to say if i have read it correctly ,750,s after 1968 have no frame number ,68 and early 69 750,s had serial number stamped into the headstock and depending on where they were made it could be on the left or right side .
So in theory ,mine with a riveted compliance plate would ba a later model .
the plot thickens
:)
Wheelie
 
There was no frame number stamped directly on the frame until 73 when its likely the Italian maker stamped the frames for their own purposes or at the request of Norton. Even then until the 850 MK3 that plate had the engine number stamped onto it. So a 69 only had the plate riveted to the headstock and the number on that matched the factory fitted engine, that same number was not stamped directly on the frame anywhere in 69.
 
Thanks for the feedback .
That was one of the companies I was looking at as the picture of their Alloy tanks on Ebay looks pretty good but was wondering about theier service /reliability .
There is an UK based company mentioned on a previous thread that sells the same tank (I think )but with the exchange rate it makes more sense if i can get one from a company closer to Australia .
You can buy excellent quality Emgo Tanks from Classic Bike Spares in Morrisset NSW. No risk and no need to buy OS.
 
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