In this months issue of Cafe Racer magazine.

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This says it all. The end is near.
In this months issue of Cafe Racer magazine.
 
I'm having a hard time believing '1 bike per week at its peak'. That would be 52 max bikes per year (obviously). Seems a bit low. Maybe not dramatically low, but a bit low. Surely there were years where they made more bikes than that.
 
italia said:
I'm having a hard time believing '1 bike per week at its peak'. That would be 52 max bikes per year (obviously). Seems a bit low. Maybe not dramatically low, but a bit low. Surely there were years where they made more bikes than that.
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I agree. But the talk of no more Commandos I believe.
 
italia said:
I'm having a hard time believing '1 bike per week at its peak'. That would be 52 max bikes per year (obviously). Seems a bit low. Maybe not dramatically low, but a bit low. Surely there were years where they made more bikes than that.
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I reckon that 1 is closer than the 10 claimed by Garner. I don’t believe they EVER made 10 in a week...
 
Voodooo said:
I agree. But the talk of no more Commandos I believe.
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Yeah, that’s what I read into it too. Shame if true, it would have been nice to see what the bike could become with some proper funding and resources behind it.

Would also have been nice for you existing owners to have various upgraded parts to procure when needed.

Moreover, if TVS don’t make the 961, I don’t see them taking much responsibility for spare parts supply long term..
 
Fast Eddie said:
Yeah, that’s what I read into it too. Shame if true, it would have been nice to see what the bike could become with some proper funding and resources behind it.

Would also have been nice for you existing owners to have various upgraded parts to procure when needed.

Moreover, if TVS don’t make the 961, I don’t see them taking much responsibility for spare parts supply long term..
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Agree with all of that - would also much prefer the model line to continue however, it would certainly make the relatively low number of 961‘s more sought after in the future. Once the majority of the existing bikes are with their ‘forever owners‘ they may become rare as hens teeth. Or am I looking through my rose tinted specs again? :oops:
 
So my 961 cafe racer was built in a 'race shop'. That's pretty cool! Sounds better than an ex call centre.....

In terms of upgraded parts I think once we can get the clutch basket sorted properly and the rocker bushes then the engine is not too bad a state of affairs for the mileage most owners put on them. We even have ECU problems resolved thanks to SCS.

Haven't heard anything recently about who owns the rights to make the 650 engine.
 
One model in an entire line up makes you a retro brand ? Sounds like a cop out to me , too many engineering flaws to fix too much for them to bother with . Better buy your parts now while they are still being made .
 
Fast Eddie said:
Yeah, that’s what I read into it too. Shame if true, it would have been nice to see what the bike could become with some proper funding and resources behind it.
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I think I will take that statement above with a very big pinch of salt, seeing of how many OAPs etc he robbed money from.
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Agree with all of that - would also much prefer the model line to continue however, it would certainly make the relatively low number of 961‘s more sought after in the future. Once the majority of the existing bikes are with their ‘forever owners‘ they may become rare as hens teeth. Or am I looking through my rose tinted specs again? :oops:
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There's still new ones available if you want to crate a few up and hide them in the cellar for Ron :)
 
Bernhard said:
I think I will take that statement above with a very big pinch of salt, seeing of how many OAPs etc he robbed money from.
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Bernhard, we are talking about a quote made by the new CEO John Russell.

I am not aware that Mr Russel has robbed any money from any OAPs...
 
Fast Eddie said:
Bernhard, we are talking about a quote made by the new CEO John Russell.

I am not aware that Mr Russel has robbed any money from any OAPs...
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Humble apologies for typing in haste, I think we all know who I was referring to.
 
Taking a cheap shot at the former is a lame attempt to make the current look better. As for the demise of the 961, let us not forget, had this bike been produced properly and its company standing behind its product instead of shafting the overseas dealerships and customers, its the 961 that got all us old dudes with money intrigued. Not settling for the Thaiumph at half the cost. You don't have to be a retrobrand to produce a cool retro bike. The scout and most other Indians are retro, the bonnie is retro, as are other Triumphs, the Beemer cafe is retro. The new guy is full of it.
 
I think what Russell is saying is that TVS doesn't want Norton to become known as a retro only brand.
No one would call the Thaiumph of today a retro brand, but they do make a few modern classic (retro) models.
And a shit load of modern, high performance, 3 cylinder designs.
This may be the type of company that TVS will model the new Norton after.

I never thought that they would revive the 961 in it's original form, ever if reworked to improve the design.
Maybe there will be a new Commando, but probably it would be a whole new design.
 
BritTwit said:
I think what Russell is saying is that TVS doesn't want Norton to become known as a retro only brand.
No one would call the Thaiumph of today a retro brand, but they do make a few modern classic (retro) models.
And a shit load of modern, high performance, 3 cylinder designs.
This may be the type of company that TVS will model the new Norton after.

I never thought that they would revive the 961 in it's original form, ever if reworked to improve the design.
Maybe there will be a new Commando, but probably it would be a whole new design.
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Triumphs best selling bike of all time is the new bobber. That says something
 
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