GODET EGLI VINCENT

Do these ever come up for sale in the USA?

yes, but not often.

The front end ‘comes up’ at least …

With Vincents, an Egli might be the only way to go. In that first photo, the tailpipe diameter is slightly too small to get the most top end. Any restriction cuts the top off the power band. And with a Vincent, the power pulses are less regular and probably do not reinforce each other. But that exhaust system is probably still a better way to go than separate pipes.

My mate got chucked on his head at 70 MPH off an unmodified Vincent. The front forks need a lot of care, and the dampers under the seat are important.

acotrel said:

My mate got chucked on his head at 70 MPH off an unmodified Vincent. The front forks need a lot of care, and the dampers under the seat are important.

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Totally irrelevant to the subject - Godet Vincent - Egli frame.

acotrel said:

My mate got chucked on his head at 70 MPH off an unmodified Vincent. The front forks need a lot of care, and the dampers under the seat are important.

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What about the drum brake? Did it lock up on him?

concours said:

What about the drum brake? Did it lock up on him?

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That’s why I keep the front wheel off the deck… eliminates the drum brake dangers !

Seriously and FWIW worth, the Egli proves how drums are indeed more a ‘black art’ than an engineering science.

The Godet 4ls is all magnesium, so the wheel assembly is surprisingly light.

And performance wise it is in joint first place with a new MV race drum replica I once had.

The feel, predictability and power of it really are WAY more than one should expect from a drum.

And interestingly, I rode a modern Manx replace on track a little while ago, (a top spec bike built by a top respected builder) which had an IDENTICAL looking 4LS brake… that was frankly horrible. I was staggered at how different it was to the Godet made version.

acotrel said:

With Vincents, an Egli might be the only way to go. In that first photo, the tailpipe diameter is slightly too small to get the most top end. Any restriction cuts the top off the power band. And with a Vincent, the power pulses are less regular and probably do not reinforce each other. But that exhaust system is probably still a better way to go than separate pipes.

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This silencer looks like a Gold Star item but isn't. The tail pipe is 2" did and this system works very well with the MK2's cams this bike is most probably equipped with.
Don't worry too much, they know their Vincent at Godet.

ericg said:

This silencer looks like a Gold Star item but isn't. The tail pipe is 2" did and this system works very well with the MK2's cams this bike is most probably equipped with.
Don't worry too much, they know their Vincent at Godet.

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Indeed. It’s actually tapered inside up to that large outlet.

Patrick developed them on the Dyno and was surprised at how much they benefited.

My bike has ‘105’ cams which are the MK2 profiles but re phased.

It also has higher than normal CR.

It is a properly fast motor !

There was an English guy here in Victoria who was always raving on about how good Vincents are, until he tried racing one at Calder Raceway - he chucked it up the road at about 100 MPH. So then he built a sidecar racer out of it and was much more successful. I cannot remember who the top sidecar guy was, but he rode a Vincent. When Orrie Salter brought the 500cc Rennsport BMW sidecar to Australia, the Vincents went backwards. The BMW was supposed to be returned to the factory, but wasn't. Some idiot was turning it into a solo the last time I heard of it.
My brother has built many Vincent sidecars for speedway racing. He said 'every bolt is a special'. They were designed to keep you in the hands of the dealers.

Before he died, one of my friends paid for an Oldani drum brake from Italy - he never received it. In the old days , the front brake was probably the most expensive part of a race bike. If I had never used one, I would have raced 20 years longer. They should be banned like pudding basin helmets. Anybody who gives a kid a bike with a drum brake to race, is a criminal. If I wanted to race my Seeley tomorrow, I could do it without anxiety.
Even now when I think about racing, I can still feel my shoulder hurting. It took about a year to stop. I used to lift my right hand onto the steering wheel of my car, with my left hand, to drive to work.

acotrel said:

Before he died, one of my friends paid for an Oldani drum brake from Italy - he never received it. In the old days , the front brake was probably the most expensive part of a race bike. If I had never used one, I would have raced 20 years longer. They should be banned like pudding basin helmets. Anybody who gives a kid a bike with a drum brake to race, is a criminal. If I wanted to race my Seeley tomorrow, I could do it without anxiety.
Even now when I think about racing, I can still feel my shoulder hurting. It took about a year to stop. I used to lift my right hand onto the steering wheel of my car, with my left hand, to drive to work.

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You really should get over that crap Al - sounds like a tradesman blaming his tools.
Maybe old curmudgeons should be banned too!

As one of my mates once said - 'BE TOLD'. - Don't come back to me crying when you are dead, because I will not say 'I told you so' to comfort you.
I do not pretend to be a top rider, because I have the wrong mindset for that - no ego. - I only go there for the dog-fight and I know how to survive. After 4 laps a drum brake usually either fades or grabs. Road racing really suits my sense of humour, I love doing it. I do not usually crash, unless somebody else does something which is really stupid. If you do not believe me, I am always willing to join in, in a little contest. The last time I crashed, it was either hit him or land on the ground. What he did was witnessed - IDIOT ! There is nothing genius in crashing another rider who has a drum brake. By the time my right shoulder had healed, it was too late to punch him in the face. He does not know why I refuse to ever ride on a race track while he is on it. He has a huge and dangerous inferiority complex.