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I think his point was made in the first two sentences. The point being that Molnar et al might ensure continued supply of Racing Avon tyres for Manxes.

Which is good news for those who want them, but irrelevant to road going Commandos.

No idea what the rest of the post was about…
Gotcha - It must've been calling Ken, Matt and STS Bloody Idiots that threw me.
 
Tyres are tyres. Most of the racing tyres which have been available for classic racing bikes since the 70s have been road tyres. Some have had better compounds. But if your bike remains more upright in corners due to it's steering geometry, the compound is less relevant. The Japanese two strokes of the 70s had 18 inch wheels and neutral steering. They leaned much more than a Manx so needed better tyres. But when a wheel of a motorcycle is touching the road there are three directions of load - vertical, sideways and rotational. If there is more sideways load, when you apply more rotational load, you need more grip. If the bike stays more upright in corners, you do not need as much grip to do a similar speed, so you can accelerate faster with the same compound tyre.
In corners the Japanese bikes were no faster than a Manx. But once out of the corners, and onto the straights, they were faster.
 
"If the bike stays more upright in corners, you do not need as much grip to do a similar speed,"


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Tyres are tyres. Most of the racing tyres which have been available for classic racing bikes since the 70s have been road tyres. Some have had better compounds. But if your bike remains more upright in corners due to it's steering geometry, the compound is less relevant. The Japanese two strokes of the 70s had 18 inch wheels and neutral steering. They leaned much more than a Manx so needed better tyres. But when a wheel of a motorcycle is touching the road there are three directions of load - vertical, sideways and rotational. If there is more sideways load, when you apply more rotational load, you need more grip. If the bike stays more upright in corners, you do not need as much grip to do a similar speed, so you can accelerate faster with the same compound tyre.
In corners the Japanese bikes were no faster than a Manx. But once out of the corners, and onto the straights, they were faster.
Al you’re just wrong mate. Or at least a couple of decades out of date.

Most classic / vintage race tyres in the U.K. and Europe are designed to look like road tyres, primarily because of the class rules, but they are race tyres. Often with a choice of different compounds per tyre. The compound and construction has virtually nothing in common with road tyres.
 
I’m not an expert but your tires don’t look so good. And that’s the strangest Norton I’ve ever seen ;)
That Kwacker was only SLIGHTLY faster than the Commando tested in a Cycle magazine shootout. (Test)
Tires look good now! 🍻
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That Kwacker was only SLIGHTLY faster than the Commando tested in a Cycle magazine shootout. (Test)
Tires look good now! 🍻View attachment 103911View attachment 103912View attachment 103913View attachment 103914View attachment 103915View attachment 103916
Have you ridden anything with BT46s fitted yet?

I‘ve been looking at, and thinking about, alternatives to Avon Roadriders for a long time, but have always ended up unwilling to fix something that’s not broken, as I find the Roadriders very confidence inspiring when riding ‘briskly’.

Maybe Avon are now forcing my hand and it’s time to venture out a little…
 
Have you ridden anything with BT46s fitted yet?

I‘ve been looking at, and thinking about, alternatives to Avon Roadriders for a long time, but have always ended up unwilling to fix something that’s not broken, as I find the Roadriders very confidence inspiring when riding ‘briskly’.

Maybe Avon are now forcing my hand and it’s time to venture out a little…
I'm the same
Road riders have found there way onto all of my bikes
 
Have you ridden anything with BT46s fitted yet?

I‘ve been looking at, and thinking about, alternatives to Avon Roadriders for a long time, but have always ended up unwilling to fix something that’s not broken, as I find the Roadriders very confidence inspiring when riding ‘briskly’.

Maybe Avon are now forcing my hand and it’s time to venture out a little…
I have a set on a Non-Norton and I am very happy with them. I belive Ludwig uses them, and he feels the same way. Interesting thing is there are two 100/90-19 front tires that have different speed ratings and rim size specs. I hope I don't have to find out if they can be mounted backwards as a rear LOL.
 
Have you ridden anything with BT46s fitted yet?

I‘ve been looking at, and thinking about, alternatives to Avon Roadriders for a long time, but have always ended up unwilling to fix something that’s not broken, as I find the Roadriders very confidence inspiring when riding ‘briskly’.

Maybe Avon are now forcing my hand and it’s time to venture out a little…
Oh YES I have.
I've used up 3 sets on my RZ350 and did 3,000 miles on the H2 750 this fall.

I am VERY IMPRESSED. Both bikes are leaned to the max, traction is great.
HIGHLY recommended.
If the Avons are going away, I'll put them on the Commando.
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