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Bernhard said:A lot of work and a very neat job…….I do hope this guy has Public Liability Insurance if he is selling any of these to the general public :!: :?
Bernhard said:A lot of work and a very neat job…….I do hope this guy has Public Liability Insurance if he is selling any of these to the general public :!: :?
Jeandr said:Bernhard said:A lot of work and a very neat job…….I do hope this guy has Public Liability Insurance if he is selling any of these to the general public :!: :?
One of the things wrong with the world today, everyone expects the "other guy" to be responsible when I for one know riding motorcycles has its share of dangers, the roads are not glass smooth, there are a lot of idiots on the road, a deer could cross the road without warning...
The parts he builds look well made. I wonder if the triple trees built by Rob North out of sheet metal and used by many racers were faced with the same distrust :?:
Jean
Bernhard said:Jeandr said:Bernhard said:A lot of work and a very neat job…….I do hope this guy has Public Liability Insurance if he is selling any of these to the general public :!: :?
One of the things wrong with the world today, everyone expects the "other guy" to be responsible when I for one know riding motorcycles has its share of dangers, the roads are not glass smooth, there are a lot of idiots on the road, a deer could cross the road without warning...
The parts he builds look well made. I wonder if the triple trees built by Rob North out of sheet metal and used by many racers were faced with the same distrust :?:
Jean
As a defence to myself you take my comments in entirely in the wrong context.
I am only stating the obvious, that prevention is better than the cure…….
Any factory these days has to have Public Liability Insurance.
Nuff said.
hobot said:.............as this sheet steel yoke is most lightest and strongest toughest way to construct them, so not at all dangerous when done to this extremely fine level.
hobot said:Liability issues for manufacture's is more a political and money gambling cartel enterprise than engineering or safety based issue.
Dances with Shrapnel said:hobot said:.............as this sheet steel yoke is most lightest and strongest toughest way to construct them, so not at all dangerous when done to this extremely fine level.
So you have tested these and had an army of engineers conduct a finite element/difference analysis on them. If the answer is no then you are blowing smoke.
Please tell me why all the advanced (and retarded) motorcycle manufacture not think of this and exploit it's superiority years ago? Pretty obvious, eh
I commend the fellow who made this as it is a piece of art.
Rob North fabricated triple clamps (upper and lower yoke) with welded steel plate or steel sheet. These were race tested. The above is still a question.
hobot said:Liability issues for manufacture's is more a political and money gambling cartel enterprise than engineering or safety based issue.
It is called risk management. It is the nature of the real world as we live it.
Jeandr said:I recall reading about HD when they came out with their springer front end a few years ago, they went through all the engineering programs, finite element analysis etc, and they came out with a product that was very close to what HD had produced 70 years before. How had they come out with this with no comuters, trial and error and basicaly, if it looks good enough, it probably is good enough. I don't think Rob North even knew how to log on a computer when he made his sheet metal triple trees, the fact they were "race proven" is only a testimony to his craftmanship. They were probably overbuilt compared to a similar product that is computer designed, but then they were just as good as the cast or forged stock items, but lighter which is what he was looking for.
Jeandr said:Like Swoosh said, I would ride anything this guy ever made.
Jean
J.A.W. said:Well, as far a the NASA shuttle example goes - one failed going up & another coming back, but they seemed to learn from it, just like the F104 fighter jet with the downward firing ejection seat, not such a brilliant idea.
Spose the good ol Aussie invention -the 'Black Box' flight data recorder, speaks up when dead men tell no tales.
Jeandr said:J.A.W. said:Well, as far a the NASA shuttle example goes - one failed going up & another coming back, but they seemed to learn from it, just like the F104 fighter jet with the downward firing ejection seat, not such a brilliant idea.
Spose the good ol Aussie invention -the 'Black Box' flight data recorder, speaks up when dead men tell no tales.
Black boxes are actually a Canadian invention.
Now how do you all suppose they came out with these fancy finite element analysis programs? Basicaly, they used data collected on samples they destroyed in testing, then they extrapolated based on these findings. The first rockets they sent to the moon were all based on seat of the pants engineering. The old engineers and architects made things in small step increments, they did not start with a 100 story building, they built them higher and higher as time went by. With good programs and good data, they now design wilder and wilder just because they now can test their ideas virtually before laying down the first brick. Are they always right? only time will tell, but as time will let you know, knife edge designs may be good for a while (usually as long as the warranty), but they may fall short in 10, 20 or more years.
Jean
Jeandr said:The first rockets they sent to the moon were all based on seat of the pants engineering.