EV drawbacks

EV drawbacks for me would mean major expense over and above vehicle purchase that would run into many thousands of £££’s !!!!

My 1960’s home would first need to be rewired - £5,000 - followed by a charger @ up to £1,000

^^^^ above applies to solar panels

^^^^ above applies to heat pump technology also, something our govt is trying to force us to use by banning gas heating in the future

I actually really like technology but beyond money for me the most major EV drawback is they are on the whole so god damned lard arsed ugly !
 
The market for EV's in the UK is heavily distorted, instead of the typical 50/50 mix of Company to private sales on new cars its 90/10. The tax breaks for company car recipient's are too large to ignore but non existent for private buyers so private buyers go for hybrids or petrol. Now when these EV company cars reach the end of their 3 year lease and enter the 2nd hand market they are now seeing huge drops in value, this is not the normal depreciation but the value of a 3 year old car in 2021 was significantly higher than a 3 year old car of the same model and spec 1 year later. EV's once they enter the 2nd hand market are being ignored, too many stories about range anxiety coupled with too few charging points are putting off private buyers. The lease companies will have to take this into account or go bust so leasing costs of EV's are going to go higher, then the company car recipients will have a different equation to look at before their next purchase.
 
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Perhaps unsurprisingly, we disagree on a deep level again here.

In my opinion, one of the scariest things we face is not conspiracy theorists, it’s the pursuit of them and the ensuing death of free speech, and along with it, freedom and truth.

I know you reject it, but to me it’s huge.

When we look at what the governments of the world have done in recent years (especially in covid times) we have seen irrefutable proof of their willingness to totally own the narrative, to silence any decent, etc.

When evident in other countries this is called propaganda at best, or tyranny at worst.

Whilst I understand why people use the label ‘miss information‘ I dislike it. It’s almost an oxymoron really, it’s calling something a lie without having the balls or ability to call it a lie. And until we can prove something is a lie it is nothing more than an alternative point of view.

When faced with an alternative point of view, it is our responsibility as a society to counter it, with logic, research and debate. If it transpires to be crazy / a lie / or just plain wrong, people will see this. When people see the same person discredited repeatedly, they stop listening. This is what debate does and why the ability to debate is so important. This is precisely why universities established debating chambers years / centuries ago.

When there is a debate, ie a discussion in which opposing arguments are put forward, who is to decide which side is information and which side is misinformation ? The answer is that this can only be decided by hearing both sides.

To close down one side without debate is the definition of limiting free speech.

If we start to impose limits on free speech we will slide into an unpleasant world in which authorities will decide who is right and who is not, and who can speak and who can not, kinda like it is today in R*ssia, North K*rea, Ch*na, etc.

I am not defending any particular conspiracy theorist here, and I do agree that some can indeed be dangerous. But I take the viewpoint that ‘putting up with’ the odd dangerous conspiracy theorist, which is inevitable within a system of free speech, is a MUCH better option than the alternative…
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The forum keeps crashing for me - either no access or it freezes and does not save post content. Hence this post as image inserts. Anybody else finding similar?
 
Industry successfully reduced NoX, heavy metals, So2, heavy particulate….real pollutants, to tolerable levels.

Co2 ghost (a 97% naturally occurring substance totally necessary for life itself) must be totally eliminated as to the “man caused” 3 % of it???? Mindless panic created for economic & control purposes.

 
Same end as former PM Liz Truss, same theme. Just five months ago, Looney spoke out regarding slowing BP “transition” away from core oil & gas business. No coincidences.
“Climate Justice” an unassailable religion in UK.
Could someone jog my memory...Did Liz get pushed before or after the Nordstrom explosions....🤔


 
Only once the west is economically and industrially in ruins, and we stop exhaling, can the “man caused” portion of Co2 be “ net zeroed”. The 97% naturally ocurring atmospheric Co2 then remaining. Transfer of global power away from the west then fully achieved.....night all...😎
 
Forget the climate .... and all that ... my wife tells me that the end of the world will come from ( because of ) the yellow man ( bible ) ??

Who am I to argue to with SHMBO :(:rolleyes:
 
To add to the above video and findings...
Elite government, including the influence of the Royals, have intentionally ended former UK energy independance & exports, leaving its economy in ruins.
Decarbonization means send carbon emitting industrial power to China, & inflict intentional pain on citizenry.

 
It's looking like the UK are moving the goalposts from 2030 to 2035 for the ban on new deisil/petrol vehicles
 
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