Ethanol is for drinking not burning

Northton said:
Just throw one of these additives in for storage of a few weeks or more. Leave the carbs and tank full.
Easy peasy
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Yes. I've had GREAT results with StaBil.

The single biggest mistake laypeople make is to not run it in completely.

Put the magic elixir in the tank.
Slosh around with a front brake clamped heave-ho.

Ride 5 miles.

(if you can't ride it, say, for instance, the roads are salted)
Remove the carb bowl drains. Fuel taps on, catch a cupful from each carb. Close the taps. Put the drain plugs in. Open the taps, let the bowls fill with treated fuel. Tickle, start the engine & warm it 3 minutes. Now every passage is anointed with treated fuel. Very quick, easy & thorough.
 
Torontonian said:
My local airport is Pearson Intnl . I doubt getting past security for said fuel . Cocaine shipments seem to get through no problem so ...There is Stouffville airport for recreational , far to the north east though ...
The float bowl corrosion is likely water IMO. Hygroscopic corrosion , same that attacks brake lines and components of brakes .
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That is correct. Brought to the fuel system courtesy of Ethanol laced fuel.
Not "water in the gas" as in the before times.
 
acotrel said:
Ethanol helps your legs work better when you ride a push-bike. It probably increases fuel consumption wheh added to the petrol.
Ethanol has a relatively high latent heat of vaporisation, so would have a cooling effect in the inlet tract of motors. It should cause slight lean-ness and a slight increase in power when the fuel injection adjusts by adding more fuel to compensate.
I use methanol for racing. If I do not drain the carbs after I have used the bike, the white crap can form and start blocking jets. On one bike I was using Mikuni carbs - I had a seizure. When I took the drain screws out to drill them, I discovered they were already drilled. With the MK2 Amals, I just take the jet covers off and put them on the shelf.
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How long ago did you have that seizure?
 
Triton Thrasher said:
How long did it take, to get like that?
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I'm guessing it took a while, maybe a few months. This is on a firewood processor that gets rented out, and I get it rent free because I have to fix all the stuff that everybody else breaks. Predator 670 V twin engine, Chinese clone of a Briggs Vanguard 22HP.
 
Since converting to ethanol for old bikes and yard tools years ago, then adding 1oz of Seafoam per gallon to it, never have any issues.
 
Stevo said:
Since converting to ethanol for old bikes and yard tools years ago, then adding 1oz of Seafoam per gallon to it, never have any issues.
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Likewise, every time I mix up a 2 gallon batch of premix, fuel Stabilizer goes in. Chain saws get intermittent use, leaf blower, trimmer is small quantity
 
Fast Eddie said:
Large parts of the world are starving… putting food into petrol tanks therefore never made sense to me…
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We live within fields and fields of mais (French spelling). The harvest is just coming to an end, so the roads are pure mud right now.

But the mais grown around here is not for fuel or human consumption. It is chopped by the harvester, ready for animal feed. The animals are used to produce mainly milk, some beef.

I don't believe it is an efficient use of resource!
 
True, not an efficient process but still much better than growing corn for cars.
The most shocking thing for me was to learn that only the kernels on the cobs are used for ethanol. The cobs themselves and the rest of the plant are discarded for the most part.
In early years that went as animal feed but now there is far too much of it produced, so a lot goes to waste.

Glen
 
worntorn said:
True, not an efficient process but still much better than growing corn for cars.
The most shocking thing for me was to learn that only the kernels on the cobs are used for ethanol. The cobs themselves and the rest of the plant are discarded for the most part.
In early years that went as animal feed but now there is far too much of it produced, so a lot goes to waste.

Glen
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Give Monsanto enough time and they'll find a way to sell it to us for food :(
 
SteveA said:
We live within fields and fields of mais (French spelling). The harvest is just coming to an end, so the roads are pure mud right now.

But the mais grown around here is not for fuel or human consumption. It is chopped by the harvester, ready for animal feed. The animals are used to produce mainly milk, some beef.

I don't believe it is an efficient use of resource!
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It came about out of the Arab oil embargo . Now it's ingrained in subsidies . Very political stuff , not really about efficient use of corn itself .
 
Torontonian said:
It came about out of the Arab oil embargo . Now it's ingrained in subsidies . Very political stuff , not really about efficient use of corn itself .
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Zackly'.
A clear photo of why i hate using that stuff...my other engine driven mechanisms hate that excuse for fuel too.
It melts/melted delivery hoses from the inside out and trashes most of the engine components downstream from the fuel hose. Even with preservative it stills introduces H20 after time.
My latest mistake was using 7 month old ethanol to run a couple of Honda generators. They would not start. I drained the fuel, emptied the bowls and refilled with fresh ethanol mixed with aviation fuel. They both fired on the first pull.

There is a reason aviation power plants are exempt from using that stuff.
My good friend that farms/grows a couple thousand acres of corn and beans excels his farming biz with the sale of corn designated for ethanol development. He growled at me when I mentioned I was introducing aviation fuel to our ICE machines and vehicles...so therein lies one of many political influences.
My Commando only sees Av gas if possible and when on longer runs I try to locate small airports if possible. The performance difference between Ethanol and Av gas in my 850 engine is remarkable.
 
jseng1 said:
I always shut off the gas spigot 1/2 mile before home. Bike is running out of gas and barely running when I park it - problem solved.
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Jim, I do the same; force of habit. I can see that running the fuel level in the float bowls down, but I wouldn't think it would completely empty them?
 
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