Cams n valves n stuff

According to the story that goes with the above video the factory gave it to PS
https://www.cycleworld.com/riding-r...acebike/?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email
According to wikipedia (for whatever that is worth) the same thing
Several years ago PS took a few laps at Mid Ohio vintage days. Due to the schedule getting messed up I missed it:mad:
I'm betting it's Pauls and he feels the people at Ducati are capable of taking good care of it.
 
Al, yes, the Paul Smart Imola Bike was there and looked fabulous!

And yes, I was also expecting a bigger set up in general.

Nice to see the passion though. I went with two friends, two of us on Ducati’s and one on an MV. Man on the gate shouted “only Ducati” whilst shaking his head and wagging his finger at my MV mounted mate, they made him park out on the street whilst we Ducati riders got ushered in like VIPs !!

We didn’t take the piss though... honest...:D

Too funny. What Duc were you on? A rental?
 
It is a great place to visit if you are Australian. Troy Bayliss and Casey Stoner are really loved by the lady tour guides. I love their museum. I also saw their Supermono - it is to die for. I went there by train from Florence with my wife. Cathy enjoyed it too, but she'd also have like to get us to Ferrari at Modena. She made sure we got to Goodwood Revival. Whom you are with makes a difference when you travel.
 
That Paul Smart Ducati could have been bought for a reasonable price back then, because everybody went four-cylinder superbike. Strange that we could have been so blind. I think we all believed that fastest in a straight line was the most important factor. Probably none of us really knew how to use a motorcycle effectively.
 
I asked the girl at the factory about the Hailwood TT bike, I thought it a bit cheeky they had built a replica when they wouldn't supply one for the race. I guess there is a lot in there that isn't what they say it is.

Did you notice there is no rossi memorabilia there! the girl told me that they keep one of every MotoGP machine for the museum, but the rossi ones were so valuable they sold them. I don't think Ducati are rossi fans, after all they could have built a replica for the museum.
 
The Hailwood bike is a replica! Really? Well if that’s the case then I’ve no idea what I was looking at, real or replica, with the Paul Smart bike or any others!

I reckon Ducati do sulk a bit that Rossi wasn’t ‘their boy’ so to speak.
 
Steve Wynne.

"At the end of 1978 the Hailwood Ducati was sold unrestored and as used - complete with Donington crash scrapes - to a Japanese collector. This was the same engine and chassis - both bearing nos. 088238 - that Mike had used at Mallory, Donington and Silverstone, and therefore the same chassis he won the TT with, too - and in my book, it's the chassis that determines a bike's identity. Mike Hailwood sat in that seat to win the TT, and nobody else ever did so on a race track after that Silverstone meeting, until you came to ride it here at Mallory today. The second bike that Roger Nicholls rode in the TT, when he retired with a broken oil level inspection window, of all things, was purchased from the factory by the then British Ducati importers Coburn & Hughes, who then refused to sell it on to me as my original deal with Ducati had been, but instead turned it into the first ‘Hailwood TT-winner' forgery. They later sold it to a German enthusiast together with a letter certifying it was the Hailwood bike, which it most assuredly never was - Mike never even rode even a single practice lap on the bike, and anyway the importers had no involvement whatsoever with our race effort, so they couldn't have known which bike was which.

"I still owned not only the blown-up TT-winning engine, but also the disastrous full-works 950F1 bike ridden to fifth place in the 1979 TT by Mike, which I'd been too disgusted with to dispose of! In 1982, I decided to enter myself in the Daytona BoTT race, using the 1979 chassis which Ron Williams of Maxton had by now transformed from a camel into a thoroughbred handling-wise, in which I installed the 1978 engine that I'd heavily modified while rebuilding it, in search of more power. The blow-up had meant that timing gears, crank, big bore pistons and cylinders, valves, gearbox etc. were all replacements, which basically only meant the crankcases and head castings were original Hailwood TT items, even if modified inside. However, I'd overdone the tuning, and at Daytona the crankcases split, which being special sandcast units were irreplaceable, and unrepairable. So for a second time the engine was hidden away under a bench!

"A year or so later the next confidence trickster appeared on the scene, contacting me from the USA purporting to be the world's biggest Hailwood fan. Did I even have just a nut or bolt off the original Hailwood bike lying around which he could have to worship? Being a gullible type, I informed him that I still had the TT-winning engine, even though it was scrap and heavily modified, plus a spare wheel and a damaged fork slider that apart from the trashed fairing was the only casualty of the Donington crash. I sold him the stuff for just a few pounds - then a year or so later I find 'The Original TT-Winning Mike Hailwood Ducati' has gone up for sale in the USA, completely cloned from just a cracked crankcase and a broken fork leg! After correspondence between myself and the buyer of this fake, the purchaser then sued the man who created it, and the bike itself ended up in the hands of a third party, who broke it up and offered the cracked crankcases and other modified parts for sale!

"Meanwhile, the genuine bike reappeared from Japan in 1996, and was sold at auction in Los Angeles to the present owners Larry and Mark Aurtiana, who generously insisted it be returned to the race track this year [1998 - AC], to honor the 20th anniversary of Mike's victories. You're doing the honoring here at Mallory Park, while Phil Read will ride it in the TT Parade Lap - and I can assure everyone who sees the bike or reads this article that this is indeed the genuine Hailwood Ducati, and as the idiot who sold to Japan for £5000 in 1978 and tried unsuccessfully to buy it back at auction in 1996 with a failed bid of £80,000, I have absolutely no axe to grind about its authenticity! In fact, of all people involved, I'd be very unlikely to try to put up that much money to buy a forgery! The original engine with matching numbers that came with the bike when new is still installed in it - the one which Mike used in practice at the TT and won the race with at Mallory - together with every nut, bolt and washer that he raced with during the 1978 season. Odd bits do exist elsewhere which were used at some stage by Mike, but that's the nature of racing's wear and tear. This motorcycle is history on wheels, and to see it being used in something approaching anger here today, at the scene of its last race victory, has been very moving - as well as a vivid reminder of how much of a loss it is that Mike can't be with us himself at the TT to commemorate what is arguably his most famous victory."
 
I don't think there are any replicas in the Ducati museum. That would detract from their efforts. It is not about providing a visual thrill for people who would not know. If somebody was going to ride for Ducati and knew there were fakes in the museum, what would their attitude be ?
 
In 2008 we were in Bologna with a small group of Alfa Romeo and motorcycle friends. The Ducati factory is not a factory, it is an assembly plant. As your tour guide leads you down the alley to the right of the building you see many trucks arriving with boxes of parts from all over Europe and I saw one stenciled from the far East. I did not see any evidence of any real manufacturing like paint, welding, machining, etc. Only assembly of the engines and complete bikes which was ok. My wife who cares zero about motorcycles was very impressed with the whole set up and actually enjoyed the tour. The museum upstairs is very, very cool with all Ducati's various models and race bikes. Real history here. Loved the 2 story blow up picture of Casey Stoner on his champion race Ducati on the building. Man, that guy could tame a Ducati like nobody else and ride the piss out of it! Go to the factory if you can, very worth the time and effort. And yes, I have a Ducati too, 2005 ST3, Black. Owned 1980 Darmah restored, 1991 907IE, 1992 907IE and 2003 Multistrada 1000DS. If you are thinking about buying a Duc, be forwarned, maintenance at dealer is very expensive. My 2005 for a 6k service is $1,600 and service is required every 6k but not everything each time.
 
The Ducati factory is not a factory, it is an assembly plant.

This has always been one model for Auto production, design all the parts, make a few critical parts in house but send the drawings out for everything else to be made elsewhere. The other version was the classical vertically integrated production plant pioneered by Ford. Coal and Iron ore in one end, everything made in house and then assembled in house before the completed car goes out the door. This type of Ford plant has now disappeared and unlikely to reappear, just not nimble enough.
 
It’s normal in the automotive world these days to insource a bit more than Ducati seemed to be doing.
Bodies are normally in house as is the machining of the major engine components.
However, Ducati only took us around part of the site, so really they may do more than first appears.
 
I was interested in the phrase 'tame a Ducati'. I did not think they were savage. The reason bikes are fast is they are rider friendly. Casey Stoner got out of racing because of what goes on behind the scenes. Seems you cannot win if it is not your turn.
You will notice that TZ350 Yamahas of the 70s were very quick for their time. But the improvements in two-stroke technology were more about improving torque rather than top end, to make the bikes faster everywhere else rather than just down the straights. 'Point and squirt' is not the fastest way around a race circuit.
 
Mike (Spike) Edwards' Youtube videos about the 1098 Ducatis are interesting. He does not seem to be able to get the handling right. It is about 'powering through the corners'.
What is the difference between the factory racer and the one they sell to everyone else ?
 
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