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swooshdave said:
Let's round this up to say $400k, less the actually operating costs of the rooms (I'll use 50%) and now what Trump would personally profit from the $200k which is a tiny fraction on the $200k. People who have no idea how things work put into their heads that Trump is personally putting $400k in is pocket from the hotel rooms.

Whole bunch of nonsense put into people's heads by the media.
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Using your figure of 50% room operating cost, which is an ongoing cost when a room is empty. Negative $200k is the base in your example, not zero. So, Trump’s gain is $200k plus a tiny fraction when rooms are full versus empty.
 
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xbacksideslider said:
Danno and NPeteN - I agree with almost all of what you have said just above.

We are fellow isolationists who deplore American interventionism and attempts at “nation building.”
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Indeed we probably do have more in common than not.

I apologize for calling you a self righteous libertarian! Haha
 
JimC said:
Using your figure of 50% room operating cost, which is an ongoing cost when a room is empty. Negative $200k is the base in your example, not zero. So, Trump’s gain is $200k plus a tiny fraction when rooms are full versus empty.
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That $200k then goes in to the multiple holding companies, management layers and overhead. What comes out the other end is minuscule.

Or if you don’t believe that then divide $200k into $3B to see how much it adds to his wealth.
 
swooshdave said:
That $200k then goes in to the multiple holding companies, management layers and overhead. What comes out the other end is minuscule.

Or if you don’t believe that then divide $200k into $3B to see how much it adds to his wealth.
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Whoa! Are you saying Trump is worth $3 billion? And you’ve seen financial records? No? Or are you believing Trump?

I would be more inclined to believe Trump’s wealth is negative. Remember Bernie Madoff? Everyone thought he was wealthy, too.
 
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It's easy to rack up a couple B's when you haven't paid taxes in 40 years. Important also to note, DT is responsible for making 0.0% of that money.
 
NPeteN said:
It's easy to rack up a couple B's when you haven't paid taxes in 40 years. Important also to note, DT is responsible for making 0.0% of that money.
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Don’t forget multiple bankruptcies and stiffing contractors hired by Trump.
 
Perhaps you are taking a poor man's point of view ? The rules are different when you are wealthy. Wealth also exists in image. If you have a big image, you can borrow mega-bucks and do profit-shifting. Short arms and long pockets is part of the deal.
 
Dopes and babies! This is what Trump called our military leaders. This from the commander-in- chief who wears the National Medal of Bone Spurs.
 
If something goes really wrong in the south--west Pacific or the Indian Ocean, Australia would be almost totally dependent on the US for defence. That is the reason John Howard joined George Bush in invading Iraq, and we are involved in Afghanistan and Syria. But there are no guarantees. It is quite possible that Trump would hang us out to dry. A previous Australian Prime Minister, Malcolm Fraser broke ranks with the Liberal Party and pointed out the weakness in the ANZUS Pact. However most Australians took no notice.
 
Im puzzled how much Trump is disliked by some and Obama disliked by some and Bush and whomever is prez at any particular time. There always seems to be a pretty much 50-50 split for most elections give or take. Are they that much different with regard to our personal situation? Your vote
isnt worth much especially if you live in a state which is heavily one way or the other. The older I get the less I care about which fellow is in the
drivers seat. The seat seems to be driven by forces other than the occupant. Getting old has its advantages, you just aren't that bothered by politics.
 
You are correct. We have a lot of issues with our election process (without Trump encouraging more).

As far as demographics.
There are almost as many registered "independent" voters as there are Republican registered voters.

As far as drivers go, some are more "receptive" to backseat directions than others...
 
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Party faithful don’t elect a president. The swing voters determine the outcome. Exit polls showed many who voted for Obama in 2012 voted for Trump in 2016.

The 42% who still support Trump will vote for him again, no matter what. Hopefully, there will be enough who voted for Trump in 2016 that will vote for the Democrat candidate in 2020 to deny Trump another 4 years.
 
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JimC said:
The 42% who still support Trump will vote for him again, no matter what. Hopefully, there will be enough who voted for Trump in 2016 that will vote for the Democrat candidate in 2020 to deny Trump another 4 years.
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Unfortunately Jim, the established politicians have not recognised the fact that people want something different to the usual suspects. Biden and Sanders, who were rejected previously, are running again and some candidates are spouting misogynistic messages which are not resonating with the American people. Is America ready for a female president yet, polls would say not - so Warren, Gabbard and Klobuchar are out - are any of the others gaining the support?
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Sanders is the Democrat alternative to "the usual suspects" and is widely acknowledged to have had the nomination stolen from him in 2016 by the VERY usual suspects Clinton and the DNC.

In fact, Sanders is currently leading polls among Democratic voters. Surprised?

This is because mainstream media outlets owned by large corporations don't want to cover a candidate who would potentially harm them monetarily.

In fact Sanders has managed to out raise all other candidates this quarter and maintain an average contribution of 20$. (The people)

That misogynistic message was taken out of context and used by CNN (corporate media) to damage Sanders, fortunately it was pretty transparent and ended up reflecting poorly on Warren and CNN.

Unfortunately Biden will be nominated because he appeals to the 2016 Trump voters who have since come to their senses.
 
“Unfortunately Biden will be nominated because he appeals to the 2016 Trump voters who have since come to their senses”.

There have been no surprises from Trump. It was very apparent he is a pathological liar, racist, scammer, misogynist, bankruptcy artist and narcissistic moron before the election. That still didn’t dissuade some from voting for him.
 
Goodness me that surely is a bit much Jim. Im fine with you voting as you think best but all those accusations seem a bit hard to me.
But perhaps as I said before politics is clearly a waste of time as I get older.
My opinion no hard feelings please.
 
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