Triton Exhaust System - Your opinions please

I think those are called TT pipes, after some American dirt track formula.

They have to be made and fitted carefully, so they don't hang too low and are dead parallel to the frame bottom tubes. Unity's version might not look right on a Triton.

You've got to watch out for high kerbs too.

You're right TT,
I think if you want a set like that, you either buy off the shelf and adapt them to fit as tight to the frame as possible or go for a custom system which the one in the photo appears to be.
Don't mention kerbs, I put a lovely dent in my stainless pipes on my old (almost immaculate) 94 speed triple last year going over one, all because some tosser blocked me in!

Webby

Webby03 said:

I don't have a welder or a pipe bender at home but I have access to them at work. I guess I could mock the whole lot up using plastic plumbing tube and then fab it up at work.

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Yes, as long as the pipe is the same OD as you will use for the finished headers!

If you fabricate the system in stainless, that would be ideal, or do it in mild steel and then plate it (could be quite expensive?). In which part of the world are you based?

Dave

Hi Dave,
I'm in Bordeaux, SW France. Plating is only done here by a handful of very expensive companies, although I can get all the prep done at work as far as the copper plate. It's just a shame they only do hard chrome, however I could just paint the system black and have alloy or chrome silencers, that would keep the costs down and still look good. Stainless is not a bad suggestion, although I've got stainless pipes on my 94 speed triple and over the years they have discolored quite a bit.

Webby

Webby — I could try to get hold of the owner of that Triton to ask him where he got the exhaust or if it was a one-off fabrication. He should be on a list of entrants to an event. Let me know if you need more details.

If you don't mind please Dave,
No rush, I won't be buying an exhaust anytime soon, but as I mentioned elsewhere (I think) I need to make a decision soon so I can make the outer engine mount plates.
BTW, where abbots in Dublin are you? I used to work a lot in what was Team Aer Lingus at the airport. (I'm originally from up the road from you in Co. Down)

Webby

Webby03 said:

If you don't mind please Dave,
No rush, I won't be buying an exhaust anytime soon, but as I mentioned elsewhere (I think) I need to make a decision soon so I can make the outer engine mount plates.
BTW, where abbots in Dublin are you? I used to work a lot in what was Team Aer Lingus at the airport. (I'm originally from up the road from you in Co. Down)

Webby

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OK, I'll have a go.

I live just south of the Liffey, and from where you used to work, I'm about 25 mins drive by car or 15 mins by Norton

I'm in Co. Down at least a few times a year, usually to go to race meetings or to visit friends. A nice part of the world.

Thanks,
Yes, Co. Down is a nice part of the world when the sun shines, which is about 3 days per year!
Shame, because there's loads of great roads and good racing in the region. I don't think I could live there again, too cold and far too wet!

Webby — Unity Equipe are the men to talk to about that underslung exhaust system. The owner of the Irish Triton is happy with it, and says that you can get at the sump plug with the pipes in situ. http://www.unityequipe.com/html/home.html

Thanks very much Dave,
I appreciate the time you've taken to find out for me
I've dealt with UE in the past, so no worries there!

All the best

Brian

Does this exhaust look like a 2 into 1? I think you would see the left hand silencer if it had one, and it looks like a pipe joining from the left, under the gearbox. I've seen pictures of the Dunstall Drainpipe with a 2 into 1 that runs above the gearbox, but has anyone seen anything like this for sale in recent, living memory?

Cheers! ~ Gary

That has to be just the Rt. Pipe , nowhere for the left to join in behid , as its all occupied .
theres a chassis , have to be a replica , on ebay uk . at the moment .

EXHAUSTS . if youve a healthy T120 and want it to pull 8.000 plus , the 50s 1 3/4 dia pipes are same dia. as ' T.T. pipes .
as it dirt track . The TUNED LENGTH was 32 in O.A. from valve face .Which is 28 1/2 of pipe .
Wassel ' Silencors ' :lol: baffles will go incandescent if jetted a nudge rich , enhances the extractor effect .

My T100 pre unit triton , I ran Rt pipe rt, and left down & over to right , the mufflers stack in under the swing arm , one
say a foot further fwd , lengths even .( latter section of both parrallel .)down under your right heel .
Have a look at the T120s on Dirt Track , or BSAs , on U Tube . to clarify muffler fit .
pretty sure its Rt muffler top parralel to swing arm , and the left pipes muffler tucks up fwd inside it .

Might be something here .http://www.flattrackmac.com/Links.html

indeed there is , T100 way down on for sale .Left muffler fits up inside and fwd of a farily std. placement of the right one.
Left header goes down to the right in front , and tucks inside / under right pipe .
On Any Sunday on U tube shows them clearly , room for long ' mufflers ' too .

Thats about the only way youll get them in low , with decent cornering clearance .
The clutch holds the pipe on the road on the left on any pre unit , bar ridgid .

So its that or high pipes .Nice little 88 on ebay dual highs at the moment .

The BIG picture I have of Mick Grant bounceing on his but beside his Seely in the i.o.m.
gives a good plan or underside view .Orange Exhaust . Twin High Pipes , Megas similar to
the Steel Wassel ones mentioned , the reasonance of the heavy cones is most melodious . :lol:

And the Ridgid Chaincase is a better idea than the swing arm , for shaft placement and weight displacement . By FAR .

Webby03 said:

first of all they are chrome and I'm lazy, I hate polishing chrome! Secondly they have to be removed if you want to access the primary or the timing cases and in some cases to access the points cavity. Webby

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Who said that chrome has to be polished? To me riding the bike was always a lot more fun than polishing it, so I never did and did not care that it was dirty and dull and looked like shit. But I can see that others might have different priorities.

Put a set of pipes on like those of "TT Special" Triumphs sold in the American market in the 1960s and stick a pair of shorty mufflers on them or baffles in them. That way your pipes will not obscure anything, and you can even paint them some color that does not show dirt so as to minimize your weight loss through the activity of polishing each day. Problem solved as long as you are interested in satisfying something other than a fashion movement as most Triton owners are....

Indeed , there the TT pipes , and not the I.o.M. either . Some are same dia. as head inserts / bore. 1 3/4 O.D.
Wassel did the long Mega's in three inlet dia, biggest fits the 50s 1 3/4 pipes . I trimmed a set back at the head end,
to pull in close to primary etc @ front . Would fall of the end of the power band / gap between 3rd & 4th 2 up uphills at
90 mph . Trimmed rear to length and fitted the Wassel Megas , came ' on the boil ' at 93 / 94 mph in third , 8)

ANYWAY , in youre pic ture , YOU can CLEARLY see , the Right Pipe . Top Notch , Wot Ho . . . . . . WHAT ' WE ' do,
is pull the right pipe UP , as you can see , theres a bit of room up over it till the cases obstuct . (This is ' Home Made ' ones)

So NOW , theres room for the LEFT Cylinders pipe , to FIT , just down from & inside the Right Cylinders . Alongside even .
But she's about 45 deg angle through centers , laterally . So th I.o.M. 45 deg. lean regulation is encompassed . :lol:
Both'd touch about simultaeneously , leant over @ 45 degrees . ( or more ) .

Ends ( outlets ) are staggered , as volume of Ea Pipe identical . T100 Triton they were about 1 5/8 dia and Just Like That .
(as descibed , if you follow ) . No Mufflers on it . :shock: Some little slash cuts would do , But the l o n g megas will go
up in there , the Rt arranged to just clear swing arm ( Just under it ) with the other tucked in under @ the dreaded 45 degrees , being further forward to match the Tuned Length Headers , it fits up nicely . :mrgreen:

Got ANOTHER s/h mint video of On Any Sunday today , 50c , one last week for a dollar . But I had to wait a few decades .
The BSA's on there and elsewhere on U Tube , A65s run this arrangement for flat track with reverse cone Mega's, Viewing
will reveal , without the thousand words.Though it does have a commentator . :?

There used to be nice little steel cones / chromed , about a foot long , 3 in dia , with the rear lipped in @ 45 deg ( AGAIN )
!? so a 2 1/4 ? in outlet . Seem well matched to the Triumph 650 Twin . SO. Now YOU Know . :wink: :| Matt .

Thanks for the info Beng and Matt,
I'm currently experimenting with a pair of shorty mufflers (about 12" long) on my Bonnie. They seem to have increased the mid and top power. I still need to play around with the jetting a little to get them perfect but it's pretty close. They look good too (even dirty ) but they are LOUD!

Webby

Gary

My mate Rob sold the drain pipe (one of 4?) to the National Motorcycle Museum a few years back. Parts brought out the back door!!!
Can confirm 2 pipes.

Brian
Give Armours a call they are in Bournemouth & did me a set of steel pipes for a Triton TT style for me to finish as I wanted. Huge savings on Unity.

Chris

Thanks Chis,
I'll remember that when it's time to buy my pipes

Webby