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phil yates · Jun 23, 2014

Fast Eddie said:
phil yates said:

Fast Eddie said:

"Try and stay focused, remember you elected to devote a thread to opening a box"

Classic :lol: !!

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Eddie
Don't provoke him any further or he'll start talking about his Sunbeam seat again.

I've ordered the FCR35's from Matt at CNW. He says they sell so fast he is out of stock until mid July. I should have the Fullauto back in its box by then. I'm tempted to order a set for the Fastback as well, which will also be fitted with a Comstock worked Fullauto. I should have realised having two Commandos meant buying everything twice. You didn't tell me about this dilemma!

Phil

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Phil, I'm not taking sides with either of you in this 'handbags at dawn' duel!

But Timewarp had you there, in fact, with humour like that, he could almost... I said almost... be promoted to the title of 'Honorary Englishman" !!

A "Comstock worked Fullauto" eh? I'm currently trying hard to decide whether to go with Jims 'full works' on my RH10... or keep the RH10 as is and go for the full monty ... a Comstock worked Fullauto.

If I were a bit poorer it'd be a no-brainer... If I were a bit richer it'd be a no-brainer... :| !!

I wasn't suggesting you were taking sides Eddie, I didn't even know there was a fight on. Time and I are good mates and he frequently suggests having a beer together. But he won't tell me where he lives because he knows I'm gunna knock his teeth out. We do that in Oz, then we have a beer together.

I would expect Jim can do a great job with an R10, but I've only got R4's on these dreadful MkIII's I've bought on pete.v's advice. I'm thinking of stamping "Fullauto" on them and flogging them to Time for nearly $3000 each. He knows he wants one. He can have two! The old fart won't notice any difference anyway. But they will certainly perform better than a Sunbeam seat.

Phil

pete.v · Jun 23, 2014

I now have an RH1, (unmolested RH3). My Combat head was just too worse for wear and the geometry was just too far off to save. I sent purchased RH1 to Jim for guide work and valve seating. I then trimmed the face .040". Slight, very slight tapering on the inlet and there you have it. A damn fine running Stage 1 head at a fraction of the cost, like in 1/10th.

phil yates · Jun 23, 2014

pete.v said:
I now have an RH1, (unmolested RH3). My Combat head was just too worse for wear and the geometry was just too far off to save. I sent purchased RH1 to Jim for guide work and valve seating. I then trimmed the face .040". Slight, very slight tapering on the inlet and there you have it. A damn fine running Stage 1 head at a fraction of the cost, like in 1/10th.

But no good for an 850 pete. Do you do the head shaving and inlet tapering yourself? I don't know anything about R1's or R3's. Getting hold of an R10 for an 850 would of course be cheaper but I decided to go all the way with LBJ and buy a Fullauto. It was sitting in the shop winking at me.

Phil

pete.v · Jun 23, 2014

phil yates said:
pete.v said:

I now have an RH1, (unmolested RH3). My Combat head was just too worse for wear and the geometry was just too far off to save. I sent purchased RH1 to Jim for guide work and valve seating. I then trimmed the face .040". Slight, very slight tapering on the inlet and there you have it. A damn fine running Stage 1 head at a fraction of the cost, like in 1/10th.

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But no good for an 850 pete. Do you do the head shaving and inlet tapering yourself? I don't know anything about R1's or R3's. Getting hold of an R10 for an 850 would of course be cheaper but I decided to go all the way with LBJ and buy a Fullauto. It was sitting in the shop winking at me.

Phil

Yes I did those things myself. The tapering was only to match the 32mm manifold and no further in then 1/2" in or so.
I was just concurring with Time Warp and his nice rh1. Would I like to have a Fullauto, sure I would, but I pretty happy with what I got too.
When you are all said and done with that head back from Jim, the total cost will far exceed what I paid for my runner back in early 2 ought ought 9 which was $4800. Just sayin. Must be nice to be you, Capt. Phil.

phil yates · Jun 23, 2014

pete.v said:
phil yates said:

pete.v said:

I now have an RH1, (unmolested RH3). My Combat head was just too worse for wear and the geometry was just too far off to save. I sent purchased RH1 to Jim for guide work and valve seating. I then trimmed the face .040". Slight, very slight tapering on the inlet and there you have it. A damn fine running Stage 1 head at a fraction of the cost, like in 1/10th.

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But no good for an 850 pete. Do you do the head shaving and inlet tapering yourself? I don't know anything about R1's or R3's. Getting hold of an R10 for an 850 would of course be cheaper but I decided to go all the way with LBJ and buy a Fullauto. It was sitting in the shop winking at me.

Phil

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Yes I did those things myself. The tapering was only to match the 32mm manifold and no further in then 1/2" in or so.
I was just concurring with Time Warp and his nice rh1. Would I like to have a Fullauto, sure I would, but I pretty happy with what I got too.
When you are all said and done with that head back from Jim, the total cost will far exceed what I paid for my runner back in early 2 ought ought 9 which was $4800. Just sayin. Must be nice to be you, Capt. Phil.

Well pete, at least you still own your house!! How do you think I'm funding this obsession?? I've a bit of spare cash but it won't be spare for very long. Capt Phil gave most of what he had to ex Mrs Capt. Phil. Those divorce thingies are a real money leveller.

So I figure, turning 60 in a few months, go out and do the things you want. You might be dead tomorrow. And you are dead a VERY long time, as far as we know.

Looking at the member signatures, some guys in here have far more money tied up in bikes than I'll ever come close to. And good luck to them. We all do what we can at the level we are at. I've got friends with houses 6 times the value of mine. But I'd rather be involved in Nortons than a house.

I can't shave a head (except my own) but you can, that is your skill and you are lucky in that sense. I can cook you a meal if you like? Jen reckons I'm getting very good at that. Can't afford to eat out anymore.

Phil

phil yates · Jun 23, 2014

pete
Whilst I'm thinking of it, the one thing I will totally agree with you on regarding the MIII is the moving of the gear lever to the left. Not that I give a stuff what side it's on, but to achieve it with the AMC box, you have bloody linkages involved and they are always going to be a problem eventually regarding slop. Fixable but bloody unnecessary. If the regs at the time weren't coming into force, I doubt Norton would have gone down this track.

To keep on topic, what has this to do with Fullauto heads??
Absolutely nothing!!

Phil

pete.v · Jun 23, 2014

phil yates said:
pete
Whilst I'm thinking of it, the one thing I will totally agree with you on regarding the MIII is the moving of the gear lever to the left. Not that I give a stuff what side it's on, but to achieve it with the AMC box, you have bloody linkages involved and they are always going to be a problem eventually regarding slop. Fixable but bloody unnecessary. If the regs at the time weren't coming into force, I doubt Norton would have gone down this track.

To keep on topic, what has this to do with Fullauto heads??
Absolutely nothing!!

Phil

Take heart there Capn, it still relates to Commando. Not even I will fault you for that. This is key.

auldblue · Jun 23, 2014

Pete

What was up with the geometry of your combat head?

Ab

pete.v · Jun 23, 2014

auldblue said:
Pete

What was up with the geometry of your combat head?

Ab

pm sent

phil yates · Jun 23, 2014

pete.v said:
phil yates said:

pete
Whilst I'm thinking of it, the one thing I will totally agree with you on regarding the MIII is the moving of the gear lever to the left. Not that I give a stuff what side it's on, but to achieve it with the AMC box, you have bloody linkages involved and they are always going to be a problem eventually regarding slop. Fixable but bloody unnecessary. If the regs at the time weren't coming into force, I doubt Norton would have gone down this track.

To keep on topic, what has this to do with Fullauto heads??
Absolutely nothing!!

Phil

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Take heart there Capn, it still relates to Commando. Not even I will fault you for that. This is key.

I guess so pete. The R4 head on the MkIII wasn't a good idea either. I believe Norton were trying to improve on the R10, but ended up going backwards in the process.I guess it doesn't really matter what Commando model you have or favour, they all had their particular issues. Luckily, 40 yrs on we've been able to resolve nearly all of those and now have the updated machines we have, which are so much fun to ride.

Phil

auldblue · Jun 23, 2014

Phil

Are you going to dyno that old red fastback of yours any time soon or are you not going to bother? My 750 will be back on the road soon and I want to get it dyno'ed to see what it's pushing if any more than my old 69 fback. My curiosity is killing me!

phil yates · Jun 23, 2014

auldblue said:
Phil

Are you going to dyno that old red fastback of yours any time soon or are you not going to bother? My 750 will be back on the road soon and I want to get it dyno'ed to see what it's pushing if any more than my old 69 fback. My curiosity is killing me!

I don't have an OLD Fastback. Mine is only 39yrs old. Auldblue, I'll talk to Staintune about putting it on their dyno, shouldn't be a problem given Sandy is a mate of mine. I just never liked the thought of having your bike revved the crap out of on a dyno. It might explode into 1000 pieces. I can just see the news, !0 men killed by 1000 pieces of flying red fibreglass!!

I'll ask them auldblue, it would indeed be interesting. But you know, I'm never going to tell the truth in here am I? I think it will probably come in at around 150hp, but could of course be a lot more. It is a MkIII after all!

Phil

auldblue · Jun 23, 2014

Phil

The 3 biggest lies told by guys: the cheque is in the mail. 2 ,I did not sleep with your best friend ,we only cuddled

3, my commando is pushing over a 100 horses.

No tall tales on this one Phil.

Biscuit · Jun 23, 2014

auldblue said:
Phil

3, my commando is pushing over a 100 horses.

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Or do you mean "my 3 Commando's combined are pushing over 100 horses?

Matt Spencer · Jun 23, 2014

Nitro at the pumps in Mittagong . :?

auldblue · Jun 23, 2014

Biscuit

You're not wrong there. I Walked right in to that one.

Happy days

phil yates · Jun 24, 2014

Biscuit said:
auldblue said:

Phil

3, my commando is pushing over a 100 horses.

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Or do you mean "my 3 Commando's combined are pushing over 100 horses?

The Beemer outfit produces well over 100hp alone.
The two Nortons?
How can I tell? E-start has failed on both of them so my gut feeling is not much hp at all. RH4 heads are both cracked and both bikes pull so badly to the left, I'm not game to open the throttle. I guess you could say I don't actually have any real Commandos at all!

Phil

phil yates · Jun 24, 2014

auldblue said:
Phil

The 3 biggest lies told by guys: the cheque is in the mail. 2 ,I did not sleep with your best friend ,we only cuddled

3, my commando is pushing over a 100 horses.

No tall tales on this one Phil.

Okay, the game is up.

The bank won't give me a cheque book, cancelled the last one.
I slept with MY best friend. But didn't even cuddle.
My Commando couldn't even turn the dyno belt.

I don't live in Mittagong but board with Slack in Texas.
Jim said if I don't stop sending him PM's he will give my Fullauto to Time when it gets there. Apparently his R1 is a basket case!

Phil

auldblue · Jun 24, 2014

Thing ain't looking good for you phil , I think this lot have just pinched your sidecar outfit!

phil yates · Jun 24, 2014

auldblue said:
Thing ain't looking good for you phil , I think this lot have just pinched your sidecar outfit!

I hope you had hobot confirm for you that's a Norton driving the chair. Because I put my Beemer photo in without first asking and I've never heard the end of it. I had to convince him I was delirious when I bought the thing.

Phil

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