Stainless Steel on Exhaust pipes and Peashooter silencers

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SteveMinning said:
Lorenzo said:
BrianK said:
If I were buying today, I'd go for stainless steel EPCOs. Have their peashooters on an airhead BMW (running Wassells on the Commando - purchased before I discovered EPCOs (nothing wrong with the Wassells, however)). FWIW/YMMV.
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Thanks BrianK
voices told me the EPCO are very very noisy compared to others: is it true?
I was looking around and didn't find a seller online, may you indicate me where to buy?
thanks in advance!
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Lorenzo,

A little concerned about you hearing voices but you can find EPCO exhausts available. The following is a link to a guy on ebay who regularly offers them:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nort...torcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_1182
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thanks to All for your great suggestions! :D
I was going to bid a pair on ebay (it seems that everybody are assuring me about the "noise" factor..) but I had a reply from them that as they are factory second, "The rear of the mufflers are slighly oval instead of round" :shock:
what do you think? is it a sooo visible issue? :roll:
 
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No way of knowing without pics of the actual pipes he's selling....
 
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Hard to say like Brian said but again, hand built one at a time so may be because of that. They seem to take great care to make sure each set is matched & numbered one left one right so they don't get mixed up. Ask the seller to send you a photo.
 
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Hi to All!
I just bought a pair of EPCO on Ebay: before I pay, anyone of you who already bought them can give me suggestions on the procedure? (payment, shipment and so on)

Moreover, I was wondering if i may have to change the jetting of the carburators and If at this point i should buy also stainless steel pipes (and where)?

Thanks for help!
 
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Hard to say about jetting. About all you can do is see how it runs and the plugs look, and make incremental changes from there.

You shouldn't have to change out the headpipes if yours are still good. You may want to, for appearance's sake or other reasons. EPCO sells those too, as do others I'm sure.

Hope you enjoy your purchase!
 
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BrianK said:
Hard to say about jetting. About all you can do is see how it runs and the plugs look, and make incremental changes from there.

You shouldn't have to change out the headpipes if yours are still good. You may want to, for appearance's sake or other reasons. EPCO sells those too, as do others I'm sure.

Hope you enjoy your purchase!
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thank you! ;o))
actually, now i'm having problems to start it: the choke lever is missing (then I assume it is always on per the particular setting of the commando) and, even if I succeed to start it, when I open the throttle and start riding, it stops again.. I feel the problem is the choke and the carburation (the idle..) :o(
 
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Lorenzo said:
actually, now i'm having problems to start it: the choke lever is missing (then I assume it is always on per the particular setting of the commando) and, even if I succeed to start it, when I open the throttle and start riding, it stops again.. I feel the problem is the choke and the carburation (the idle..) :o(
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There's no substitute for boots on the ground.

Ottawa Norton Owners Group.
Fred Mohlmann
183 Wakefield Heights Road, Box 583
Wakefield, Quebec
Canada J0X 3G0
mohlmann@canada.com
 
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bpatton said:
Lorenzo said:
actually, now i'm having problems to start it: the choke lever is missing (then I assume it is always on per the particular setting of the commando) and, even if I succeed to start it, when I open the throttle and start riding, it stops again.. I feel the problem is the choke and the carburation (the idle..) :o(
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There's no substitute for boots on the ground.

Ottawa Norton Owners Group.
Fred Mohlmann
183 Wakefield Heights Road, Box 583
Wakefield, Quebec
Canada J0X 3G0
mohlmann@canada.com
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boots on the ground?! :shock: :roll:
 
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Possibly plugged up pilot jets from sitting? What carbs are you running?

Best answer is to pull the carbs and clean them thoroughly, but as a stopgap, you could pull 'em, run a copper wire (anything harder may cause damage) through the pilot jets to unplug them, and run some Seafoam through the next couple tanks of gas (once you get it running it at all, natch).

PS, isn't there some other way of actuating the choke? Check the manual and turn it on/off at the carb itself? I run Keihin FCRs on mine, so totally unfamiliar with Amals but others hopefully can chime in.
 
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Lorenzo said:
bpatton said:
There's no substitute for boots on the ground.

Ottawa Norton Owners Group.
Fred Mohlmann
183 Wakefield Heights Road, Box 583
Wakefield, Quebec
Canada J0X 3G0
mohlmann@canada.com
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boots on the ground?! :shock: :roll:
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There are advantages to joining up with the local Norton cognoscenti
 
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BrianK said:
Possibly plugged up pilot jets from sitting? What carbs are you running?

Best answer is to pull the carbs and clean them thoroughly, but as a stopgap, you could pull 'em, run a copper wire (anything harder may cause damage) through the pilot jets to unplug them, and run some Seafoam through the next couple tanks of gas (once you get it running it at all, natch).

PS, isn't there some other way of actuating the choke? Check the manual and turn it on/off at the carb itself? I run Keihin FCRs on mine, so totally unfamiliar with Amals but others hopefully can chime in.
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thank you for suggestions: yes, I have amals..
 
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bpatton said:
Lorenzo said:
bpatton said:
There's no substitute for boots on the ground.

Ottawa Norton Owners Group.
Fred Mohlmann
183 Wakefield Heights Road, Box 583
Wakefield, Quebec
Canada J0X 3G0
mohlmann@canada.com
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boots on the ground?! :shock: :roll:
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There are advantages to joining up with the local Norton cognoscenti
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oh.. ok! then I already have my boots on the ground! :D
 
Re: Stainless Steel on Exhaust pipes and Peashooter silencer

BrianK said:
If I were buying today, I'd go for stainless steel EPCOs. Have their peashooters on an airhead BMW (running Wassells on the Commando - purchased before I discovered EPCOs (nothing wrong with the Wassells, however)). FWIW/YMMV.
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I have just purchased a pair of EPCO and I need a suggestion:
should they come with some kind of accessory, such as DB killer or mounting adapter?
Thanks for helping! :D
 
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should they come with some kind of accessory, such as DB killer or mounting adapter?
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Nope. And the opening to the exhaust pipe is not straight as in the originals. You will probably need to expand the clamp area with a pipe expander slightly to get them over the exhaust pipe. It will be tapered.

If you don't have a Mk3 kickstart lever you will probably have difficulty getting the pipe tucked in enough not to be fouled.
 
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It might be worth it to get a quote from Keihans in the UK?

First class workmanship and a 10 year guarantee. Not cheap but depends on how long you are going to keep the bike?
 
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Viking stuff is superb. I've not had his stuff for a Norton, but I have for a triple. It's not stainless, but the quality is such that it will definitely outlast you!
Personally I don't like stainless as it discolours differently to chrome. I think stainless has become popular due to the awful quality of most chromed parts these day.
Viking stuff however, is just excellent.
 
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There are some pipe bends out there that leave the mufflers uneven, one higher and sticking out more than the other. A set if EPCO pipes I bought slightly used from a local source had this affliction. My experience of just one set.
 
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bsaboss said:
Before you send any money to EPCO could I suggest you do a search on this site for a thread I started last year. Bottom line was I was told a lot of untruths about shipping and six months later neither of the sets of pipes and mufflers I was assured had been shipped have arrived. I believe there are some dealers who stock them, so perhaps they'd be better to deal with.
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EPCO is gone (or should be), they transitioned to a company called Stainless Ride, they too have gone out of the M/C business. The EPCO website is still up, but I would advise you to make a COD relationship or you may learn the true meaning of frustration. I have a new set of their stainless Norton headers that I purchased 3 years ago, after a 4 month wait. They did not fit, the fit was so bad that even my 6' 4" 240 pound 25 year old son couldn't bend them even close. If you want some entertaining reading, go the Adver Rider forum and search on EPCO...

EPCO (Stainless Ride) peashooters are louder with a deeper tone, FWIW, far from competing with the Hardley crowd. The mufflers were also (sometimes) not a great fit, the inlets varied in size, but were easy enough to fix. If you want quality stainless exhaust check out Command Specialties.

Bill.
 
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