SCS Delta 400 Users Group

Vernon240 · Feb 10, 2022

Awesome work Gojuu. I'll try it out when I can get out again......I'll have to work on makin a maore accessable ODB port...getting to it on a Domi is a PITA right now!

TonyA · Feb 10, 2022

Gojuu said:
@TonyA having already adjusted fueling with the Dyno Jet - I think you're going to get a surprise when you see the difference this timing makes.

OH Baby ! I Can hardly wait , it was fun before and now will be a real treat. !

Gojuu · Feb 15, 2022

So, by way of an update.

I'm getting more used to the details in the Delta now, and am looking to explore extra sensors.

I had considered that having a map sensor may put me in a position to improve the tune of the bike. I reached out to SCS regarding their thoughts on what additional sensors may be a good way forwards for better tuning. Interestingly their response was that all the input sensor pinouts of the ECU are used by the bike in its current state. This may offer something by way of explanation as to why Norton went back to OMEX. If they needed a MAP sensor to assist with emissions (for Euro 4?), the additional sensor not being available to be added to the Delta could possibly lead them back to OMEX.

edit: I have been assured it wasn't that by someone who definitely knows.....

Having said that, I note that there appears to be some capability in the ECU to assign pinouts, so will review if removing the IAC has given me anything available.

TonyA · Feb 23, 2022

And more to this point , the OMEX bikes 2016 and earlier (not Euro 4) had the Tilt Circuit module to add these extra inputs. The 2016 and earlier OMEX has even less input pins than SC Delta !

TonyA · Feb 23, 2022

Gojuu said:
So, by way of an update.

I'm getting more used to the details in the Delta now, and am looking to explore extra sensors.

I had considered that having a map sensor may put me in a position to improve the tune of the bike. I reached out to SCS regarding their thoughts on what additional sensors may be a good way forwards for better tuning. Interestingly their response was that all the input sensor pinouts of the ECU are used by the bike in its current state. This may offer something by way of explanation as to why Norton went back to OMEX. If they needed a MAP sensor to assist with emissions (for Euro 4?), the additional sensor not being available to be added to the Delta could possibly lead them back to OMEX.

edit: I have been assured it wasn't that by someone who definitely knows.....

Having said that, I note that there appears to be some capability in the ECU to assign pinouts, so will review if removing the IAC has given me anything available.

And more to this point , the OMEX bikes 2016 and earlier (not Euro 4) had the Tilt Circuit module to add these extra inputs. The 2016 and earlier OMEX has even less input pins than SC Delta !

Claudio · Apr 17, 2022

Today I uploaded the latest version of the map file made available by Gojuu
After this upgrade and after the throttle body bypass is closed, the bike works really well, at low rpm it is much more ready!

TonyA · Apr 18, 2022

I have loaded it to my bike and I agree ! Much more responsive at the 2000 to 4000 rpm range.

Panetone · May 13, 2022

Hello,

One question with the Delta 400 my rev counter /tacho is not workig, with the oem ECU is working.
Any idea?

Kind Regards

Gojuu · May 13, 2022

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Panetone said:
Hello,

One question with the Delta 400 my rev counter /tacho is not workig, with the oem ECU is working.
Any idea?

Kind Regards

A few quick thoughts; is the tachometer gauge display working in the sxTune software, and have you tried loading an alternat map?

The software has a “compare” function, you could try using that between two maps and seeing what settings are different - most likely in the output screen?

Some general settings to check are here:

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TonyA · May 13, 2022

You can get good help by email from SCS Delta Matt Payne. You can contact them from their website . My page reads the same as above.
What type of ECU did you have previously ?

Panetone · May 14, 2022

The OEM is Typhoon, the settings are the same shown at Gojuu´s page.
The tacho/RPM counter is moving, but very slowly and shows wrong revs. It looks like overdamped.
With the typhoon ECU is everything working.