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Tim

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This might help someone who is just getting started, or is thinking about restoring an old Norton. After finishing (for now) my restoration of a '73 Commando 750, I've listed the things that I would do again, might do again, would not do again, and wish I had done. I 'll also list tools purchased and total cost of the project. I'll be starting my second restoration project very soon ('74 Commando 850).
This first project was a barely running, complete, very ugly bike with lots of crud and a little corrosion. It had been sitting for 10 - 15 years indoors. I made it run and it seemed the engine and trans were in reasonable shape, so I left them alone. This is a list of things I would definitely do again:
Tri-Spark Classic Twin Ignition - works great, exactly as advertised
Mikuni Single Carb Conversion Kit - from Rocky Point Cycle, carbs set up perfectly, no adjustment necessary, runs great
Front Brake Master Cylinder Mod - from Rocky Point Cycle, much better front brake, also rebuilt caliper and used braided steel brake lines
Tach and Speedo Refurb - Mark Bohman did a great job on these
Paint, Tank and Sidecovers - Vintage Vendors, Brent Budgor. They look great!
Oil Tank Mod - Colorado Norton Works
This is a list of things I might do again. They all worked, but I might find a better/more economical way.
Rear Shocks - Hagon
Voltage Regulator - Tri-Spark
Stainless Fasteners (most all) - Rocky Point Cycle
Corbin Gunfighter Seat
Progressive Fork Springs
Oil Pressure Gage Kit - Old Britts. High quality, looks good
Anti-Sump Valve - Rocky Point Cycle. Lots of discussion about this. Note that I also installed an oil pressure gage.
Stainless Peashooter Mufflers - EPCO, purchased as factory seconds from e-bay. Very nice.
Fork Damper Body, Aluminum, Modified - Clubman Racing
Fork Travel Improvement Kit - Decent Cycles. This and damper body above made a significant improvement in fork action. I may try something else next time.
Caswell Tank Sealer - Seemed to work. Time will tell. See discussions on this site.
XS 650 Crancase Vent Valve - Big and ugly, but no more oil leaks.
This is a list of things I will not do again:
Buy cables from an E-Bay vendor -
EMGO rear shocks -
This is a list of things I wish I had done:
Convert to MK III vernier isolastics -
Stripped to bare frame and painted / powder coated entire frame - I tried to spot paint frame. Looks OK until you get close. Mistake!
Built custom wiring harness - with all the ignition mods, there are too many unused wires in the stock harness.
Relaced wheels with stainless spokes and nipples - I'm still going to do this.
Although I have owned and worked on my own bikes for many years and have lots of tools, there were a few tools to buy:
Peg Spanner - Old Britts
Exhaust Nut / Primary Inspection Port Wrench - Old Britts. I really like the exhaust nut wrench. With a long 3/8" breakover bar, you can really tighten down the exhaust nuts.
Clutch Compression Tool - Klempfs. Don't try to remove the clutch without one of these.
Whitworth Thread Gage - Old Britts
Whitworth Socket Set - Klempfs
Whitworth Combination Wrench Set - Klempfs. Get the Whitworth tools. You will need them.
Isolastics Tool - Old Britts
Puller, Clutch Center / Sprocket - Old Britts. You need it to remove the alternator.
I used the following Manuals:
Factory Workshop Manual
Factory Parts Manual
Clymer Manual - Out of print, but available on e-bay. Lots of good pictures.
Mick Hemmings Videos on Engine and Transmission Rebuild - Very good info and intertaining
I used several different vendors and was pleased with them all (except those on e-bay). Old Britts is especially nice to deal with.
I hope this will help someone just beginning their first restoration. These old bikes are pretty simple and straight forward to work on, and fun to ride.
Oh, by the way, I kept very good records of what I spent. (This may have been a big mistake!!) All totalled, including the price of the original bike, I spent $10,872.97 not including expendable supplies.
Good luck!
I'll try to post a picture of the finished bike, if I can figure out how to do it!
Tim
 
This is a picture of the finished bike
Tim
Restoration Results
 
Hey Tim, Good first try on the picture now just make it bigger. :shock: Glad to know that your front end kit helped at 65.00 and hundreds out there on bikes still a very economical fix.
 
Tim said:
Fork Damper Body, Aluminum, Modified - Clubman Racing
Fork Travel Improvement Kit - Decent Cycles. This and damper body above made a significant improvement in fork action. I may try something else next time.
Tim

Can you describe what you did here? Do you have pics?
 
Swooshdave. Sorry no pics. My problem was that the new Progressive fork springs I installed were apparently too short. The front end sagged noticeably and bottomed out on rough roads. I called Progressive and they said to install a spacer made from PVC. I did so and it helped some, but still not right. I read everything I could find on this site concerning fork mods and decided to do the following. I purchased the Fork Travel Improvement Kit from Decent Cycles which consisted of aluminum fork damper rods extended 1 1/2" longer, helper springs that were installed above the Progressive springs and some hardened washers. This kit allows you to vary the preload and not use the PVC spacers. I also purchased the modified Fork Damper Body from Clubman racing. These are aluminum body fork dampers with the holes moved to a position above the taper and with brass caps. I installed all according to directions and used 10 wt fork oil. The fork action is much improved. It no longer bottoms and the damping action is much better. Hope this answers your question.
Tim
 
Great to see someone else has time to help others with their own projects. It's also good to see someone else who has spent over 10k on their norton. Maybe my wife should read your post and see that I'm not insane. At least no more so than you. Love the bike.
 
steven wardlaw said:
Great to see someone else has time to help others with their own projects. It's also good to see someone else who has spent over 10k on their norton. Maybe my wife should read your post and see that I'm not insane. At least no more so than you. Love the bike.

There is NO way that I would let my wife read this. :mrgreen:
 
your bad experience with an e bay vendor by chance would not have been one out of Chicago ?
 
What a great post! Thanks for the breakdown, it's interesting and informative to see.

Your bike looks awesome! Well done.
 
bill said:
your bad experience with an e bay vendor by chance would not have been one out of Chicago ?
Yes, that was one of them. I would advise anyone finding a part on e-bay to check with Old Britts, Fair Spares, Rocky Point or one of the other known vendors before buying off of e-bay. The parts on e-bay sometimes go for more than you would pay for a new part from a known vendor that you can return it to, if it is wrong.
 
That is a nice looking Commando, for sure.

Hard to beat the Black with Gold, classic.
 
Hi

Very good looking bike, great job.
where do you buy corbin seats for a commando?
And how much did you have tp pay for it?

I can get one here in europe from Germany but they want 500Euro for it.
Thats around twice as much as listed on Corbin´s homepage.

Best regards
Henrik
 
Lucky said:
Hi

Very good looking bike, great job.
where do you buy corbin seats for a commando?
And how much did you have tp pay for it?

I can get one here in europe from Germany but they want 500Euro for it.
Thats around twice as much as listed on Corbin´s homepage.

Best regards
Henrik

Lucky
I bought the seat directly from Corbin here in the states and paid $423.00 US for it. It really looks good on the Commando, but it is like sitting on a brick. I wouldn't want to take any long trips on it. I was hoping to be able to swap the seats back and forth easily, but the mounting bracket for the new Corbin seats (with the key lock) interferes with the stock seat. I would need to remove the mounting bracket completely, which is bolted to the top shock mount, in order to fit the stock seat. Good luck!
Tim
 
I was wary of my Corbin when I first got it - it felt so flat, wide and unforgiving. But once you're on the bike with your feet on the pegs its contoured shape actually supports MUCH better than the stock seat. I've ridden many hundred miles in a day with the Corbin with no issue. Now the stock seat is another story - while it feels padded and comfortable, it turns into a brick after about 150 miles.

My $.02
 
I've owned a couple Corbin seats. They have all required a few thousand miles breakin...
Then they get comfy
 
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