Renold Chain back in business ?

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Fast Eddie said:
That’s a great achievement.

But, of course, we’re talking about powered two wheelers on here.

The Renolds GP I used to use needed adjusting at least once a week.

The IWIS I currently use needs adjusting about once a year.

I jest not.

So, all I’m saying, is the bar has been raised. Significantly.
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Christ I'd forgotten about that GP chain!
I tried it on my t140
I seem to remember it was heavier but wore out quicker than standard?
 
Fast Eddie said:
That’s a great achievement.

But, of course, we’re talking about powered two wheelers on here.

The Renolds GP I used to use needed adjusting at least once a week.

The IWIS I currently use needs adjusting about once a year.

I jest not.

So, all I’m saying, is the bar has been raised. Significantly.
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A lot has indeed changed with heat treatment & metallurgy especially. I still have some GP chain in my personal stash but personally, I rarely had to adjust it myself. I was aware the professional racers had to do so at the TT but considering how many racers were using it & winning, it must have been considered better than the competition then. I think the last wins were the Norton rotary guys in the 90s but then GP chain was culled & that was the end of racing.
The benchmark is always moving & in any line of business it's a relentless effort to keep improving.
I mentioned the cycle chain to illustrate the results of most recent developments & although this was cycle chain, it proves Renold are capable of making the best chain in the world.
 
ClassicChainsGuru said:
A lot has indeed changed with heat treatment & metallurgy especially. I still have some GP chain in my personal stash but personally, I rarely had to adjust it myself. I was aware the professional racers had to do so at the TT but considering how many racers were using it & winning, it must have been considered better than the competition then. I think the last wins were the Norton rotary guys in the 90s but then GP chain was culled & that was the end of racing.
The benchmark is always moving & in any line of business it's a relentless effort to keep improving.
I mentioned the cycle chain to illustrate the results of most recent developments & although this was cycle chain, it proves Renold are capable of making the best chain in the world.
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Proof of the pudding will be in the eating won’t it?
 
ClassicChainsGuru said:
A lot has indeed changed with heat treatment & metallurgy especially. I still have some GP chain in my personal stash but personally, I rarely had to adjust it myself. I was aware the professional racers had to do so at the TT but considering how many racers were using it & winning, it must have been considered better than the competition then. I think the last wins were the Norton rotary guys in the 90s but then GP chain was culled & that was the end of racing.
The benchmark is always moving & in any line of business it's a relentless effort to keep improving.
I mentioned the cycle chain to illustrate the results of most recent developments & although this was cycle chain, it proves Renold are capable of making the best chain in the world.
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I would actually like to see renold bring out a chain as good as iwis and at the same price
I think that'd be great
 
ashman said:
I think I will stick with Jason the chain man, can't get better service than that although I only dealt with Andy at the time.
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Me too.

Which was my basic point to the Remolds man earlier. The competition has moved on tremendously in the years (decades?) that Renolds have basically ignored the motorcycle market.

And customers are often loyal to what, and who, they know to be good.

If Renolds want ‘in’ they need to be better than the current competition.

If they can do that, then great.

But it’s a tall order, and personally, I’m not optimistic for them.
 
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ClassicChainsGuru said:
If you've followed the success of GB Cycling in the last few games, you might be surprised to know that Renold designed, manufactured & supplied all the chains for their fixed wheel bikes such as Velodrome & BMX.
At the current count, I believe it's resulted in 9 gold, 7 silver & 2 bronze so far. Previous chains by the other manufacturers were being literally torn apart by the top racers.
I'm never going to say Renold chain is the best in the world but that's a pretty impressive medal haul by any measure.
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Whilst not wishing to take anything at all away from your cycling success, I am still struggling to understand why you should choose to try and persuade a group of motorcyclists as to the benefits of your motorcycle chain by citing how good your bicycle chain is!

Wouldn‘t a better strategy be to show us your motorcycle chain and explain how good THAT is ??
 
ClassicChainsGuru said:
Those chains have remained unchanged for decades, pretty much like our classic bikes so there was no reason to look at improving them further at the time.
the dedicated motorcycle department was essentially wound down & distribution of the chains for motorcycle use was taken on by Velocette who have been boxing & distributing them to classic dealers ever since.



In the past 30+ years, every Tom, Dick or Harry has been able to get hold of any grade Renold chain & sell it as suitable for motorcycles.



Hopefully I've not fallen foul of the advertising rules but having seen so many inaccurate posts of the years, I believe it's appropriate that any such discussions are based on facts from the start.
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I can't see how on the one hand you can state the exact issues with you chain for the last 20+ odd years ie Reynolds have done no improvements to motorcycle chain and also allowed none motorcycle chain to be sold as motorcycle chain and then also state there has been inaccurate posts.

Your post confirms all the posts were 100% accurate.
 
Interesting how quickly a good reputation can be lost. But, it is encouraging to see new products for our bikes. I dare say good news can also travel fast across the classic bike communities. I hope you nail it with the new chains.
 
Normally when a manufacturer chooses to sell direct it points to two things they either cannot get a good distributor to provide market penetration / to expensive and leaves no margin for re sellers
the competition are well established IWIS /Regina / DID / EK /Tsubaki all make excellent chains easily available and all currently have very good products and reputations

the only way i can see Renold making any kind of dent in the current market is establishing a retail price considerably lower than the competition to gain traction
 
So much negativity!!
Let's hope they look at how high a regard the Lucas 'brand' is now held and learn something. Nothing wrong with healthy competition...
Everyone has the power to surprise, look at TVS (961 owners notwithstanding!)
 
EstuaryBoy said:
So much negativity!!
Let's hope they look at how high a regard the Lucas 'brand' is now held and learn something. Nothing wrong with healthy competition...
Everyone has the power to surprise, look at TVS (961 owners notwithstanding!)
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It’s not negativity in my book.

But it is definitely an unwillingness to go “wahoo Renolds are back. I’ll ditch what I’ve been using successfully for the last 20 years and run back to them no questions asked” !!

Cos that ain’t gonna happen.
 
If I read post #10 correctly, they will be offering a 'new' chain, not just rehashing old product.
As for change? If it's up spec at a competitive price, why not?
I like marmalade sandwiches.... but not every meal, every day :-)
PS: No affiliation with, just glad to see another manufacturer supporting our hobby.
 
EstuaryBoy said:
If I read post #10 correctly, they will be offering a 'new' chain, not just rehashing old product.
As for change? If it's up spec at a competitive price, why not?
I like marmalade sandwiches.... but not every meal, every day :)
PS: No affiliation with, just glad to see another manufacturer supporting our hobby.
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Yep I'm assuming a new design of chain hopefully anyway
Problem is it could be tainted by a previous product ,once bitten etc
But I agree an extra product to suit us is very welcome
But I'll let someone else try it first :)
 
EstuaryBoy said:
If I read post #10 correctly, they will be offering a 'new' chain, not just rehashing old product.
As for change? If it's up spec at a competitive price, why not?
I like marmalade sandwiches.... but not every meal, every day :-)
PS: No affiliation with, just glad to see another manufacturer supporting our hobby.
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That’s all that’s been said… they need to make a chain that’s as good as the current best, and sell at a competitive price.

And show it to us, with details, etc.

No relying on the past name, or their success of their cycling chain, etc.

Simple.

…. But the IWIS I currently use is SO good, the price is great, the service is faultless…

Not so simple !
 
Fast Eddie said:
That’s all that’s been said… they need to make a chain that’s as good as the current best, and sell at a competitive price.

And show it to us, with details, etc.

No relying on the past name or their success of their cycling chain, etc.

Simple.

…. But the IWIS I currently use is SO good, the price is great, the service is faultless…

Not so simple !
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You'll be wanting Col. Saunder's 'secret recipe' next :-)

'No relying on the past name'.... I wonder why we didn't get a: 'TVS V4SV?'

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