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Relay

Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by Bikefalcon, Jul 8, 2019.

  1. Bikefalcon

    Bikefalcon

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    where does one get a relay for 961? Mine says 110313 but I can’t seem to find any info?
     
  2. TonyA

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    Order from Norton or AF1 Racing Austin or Indian Orange County
     
  3. trevorpacker

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    My starter solenoid relay failed, also had intermittent starting of fuel pump. Just changed out 4 relays for genuine Honda part 38502-MCS-G01. $7.67 each from Partzilla. They are Omron brand made in Japan so should be good quality. Do your own research but they seem to work well.
     
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  4. TonyA

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    Thanks for the info . Good Find !
     
  5. TonyA

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    IMG_3931[1].JPG IMG_3925[1].JPG

    Omron Honda part on left. Omron relay appear to be sealed , Norton not so.
    Omron weighs a bit more too , .70 oz. vs .55 oz.
    Omron coil resistance = 118 ohm , Norton supplied 85 ohm
    Omron normally closed contact resistance = .1 ohm , Norton supplied .2 ohm
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    Package size is very similar , there are clip points on the Omron not used on the Norton . Omron is just a bit taller . All in all a great find ! Keep the OEM relay for the schematic diagram written on it for troubleshooting purposes . My bike originally came with the black relays not shown here . Again ,Thanks to TrevorPacker ..
     
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  6. TonyA

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    IMG_3935[1].JPG IMG_3936[1].JPG

    Hey Trevor , Which relay was on your bike when it gave you trouble ? The blue or black one shown here ? I do not know what Norton is shipping currently , but the last time I purchased them last year they sent the blue type. The black relay here was on my bike since new and have not failed yet . As you can see in the photo I have changed (all six relays on the bike) over to the Omron Honda relays for testing .
     
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  7. Britfan60

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    Richard 07. How many relays under your tank do you have on your 13? I only have one and am still baffled by this.
     
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  8. comet

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    Mine is a 2013 with just one relay, which is for the fuel level warning light. The manual, which I got in 2013, shows two relays in that position and describes them as "Engine Stop" and "Fuel Light" relays. The wiring diagram shows a "Fuel W/L Relay " and a "Power Down Relay", but only the former exists in that position on the bike. But then again the wiring diagram shows a "Map Sensor" which also isn't on the bike.
     
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  9. TonyA

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    The second relay is for crank time lights off . This came out later in the Post December 2013 schematic. Does your headlamp go off when you crank the engine ? If not , this is the relay you don't have. Then after Norton went back to the Omex in 2016 they got rid of the crank time lights off relay . A power down relay was added again with the tip over sensor assy soild state package . Some time back this year I posted the PRE December and POST December 2013 schematics. These both use the SC ECU from new unless you upgraded to the OMEX afterwards like iwilson or Richard-7 did .
     
  10. Britfan60

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    Thanks gents. No longer baffled.
     
  11. trevorpacker

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    Hi Tony

    the black one failed
     
  12. TonyA

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    Thanks for the info !
     

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