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I had planned to buy the CNW rearset but am considering the NYC now, as well. Broken link removed
https://nycnorton.com/product/rearsets/.

I have never dealt with NYC. Anyone have experience with NYC and/or with their rearset?

I like the fact that the NYC will mount to the original Z-plate; I prefer that look though I appreciate that the CNW set is lighter and I like their elegant brake switch incorporation. I THINK I like the idea of the CNW change to the shift pattern but wonder if I would have trouble with it since it is different than what I'm used to.

That being said I regularly hit the rear brake to shift gears and visa versa when I go back/forth from the Commando to other bikes so it probably doesn't matter...;)
 
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Shift pattern is only somewhat irritating going back and forth. Have considered changing the Duc to GP pattern to keep it consistent between the two.

Kenny at NYC is top flight.

I have the NYC Norron rearsets, and they require a RGM T160 style kicker. The kicker sticks out to the rear more than the stock kicker, and cramps the toe quite a bit. Is still usable, and the unit is quite nice.

However, for a street bike I would.pobably make a different choice again. Maybe a madass140 or CNW unit.

Oh, and the only incongruity is that it uses metric fasteners.
 
Thanks Gort! Metric fasteners? How embarrassing! Don't tell anyone but I have metric fasteners holding the float bowls on my Amals - rethreaded the stripped original fittings. So far, nobody has noticed... :)

Re the Kickstart lever - yeah, both CNW and NYC say the folding KS lever should be used. I am considering another option. Since I have an Alton E-start, I haven't used the KS lever to start the bike in years and have often thought about removing it. This would be a good reason to do so! But I have to admit I like having the lever there so folks seeing the bike THINK that it has to be kickstarted.


"Shift pattern is only somewhat irritating going back and forth. Have considered changing the Duc to GP pattern to keep it consistent between the two."

That's a reason I like the CNW - at least the reverse pattern would be the same as "normal" left-side shift: down for first, up for remainder.
 
I have another question...

I am now considering simply mounting a foot peg at the center of the right-side foot peg mounting point (where the OEM peg assembly mounts) and reversing the shift lever - that's essentially what the CNW rearset does. But the left side (brake) is an issue - obviously a pedal is necessary.

I've searched all around and the only thing I can find similar to what I'm looking for is one from Clubman. It's the last one on this page but Clubman has NO rear sets in stock: http://www.clubmanracing.com/rearsets.php. Anybody know of another supplier for something similar.

I've decided I don't care for the look of the bell crank assembly and the loopy gear lever used by rear sets that retains the stock gear selection movement. I really like the CNW setup but I wish their pegs/brake pedal could mount to the OEM Z plate.
 
MexicoMike said:
I am now considering simply mounting a foot peg at the center of the right-side foot peg mounting point (where the OEM peg assembly mounts) and reversing the shift lever - that's essentially what the CNW rearset does.
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It doesn’t Mike, the cNw kit has the pegs further back, and (I think) higher up than that.
 
Fast Eddie said:
It doesn’t Mike, the cNw kit has the pegs further back, and (I think) higher up than that.
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I've found that (as in the Hyde Rear Sets) when the foot rest are not moved up and back with the reverse lever the ergonomics feel 'off' and the shift feel is awkward (IMHO). I had to revert to stock foot rests even with Hyde 'M' bars (my long arms alleviate any awkwardness...at least in regards to low bars!).
 
Mike
You may want to check out the rear sets sold by Madass. I bought a very nice set for my MK 3 from him and they are very well made. I don't know if he makes them for right side shift models though.
Ray
 
Anglophile said:
I've found that (as in the Hyde Rear Sets) when the foot rest are not moved up and back with the reverse lever the ergonomics feel 'off' and the shift feel is awkward (IMHO). I had to revert to stock foot rests even with Hyde 'M' bars (my long arms alleviate any awkwardness...at least in regards to low bars!).
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Indeed!
I tried half a dozen different set ups. I didn’t like the issues caused by linkages and all the reversed pedal options I tried were not satisfactory.
Eventually, I tried the cNw kit and bingo! Great shift, awesome quality, very clever brake cable pull design. They are really good.
Just wish I’d bought them first !!
 
I totally agree re the CNW and it seems most likely that's what I'll end up with. I just like those original Z plates - to me they are a big signature of "Norton." OTOH, I guess "NORTON" in big letters on the side of the tank is a more prominent indicator that it's a Norton. :)
 
I agree with Anglophile on the feeling of the reversed gear lever style being off. Rather than sitting on top of your foot and staying basically in the same place as you roll your foot up, the lever slides up your foot towards your ankle as you shift (up shift with this config). Of all the styles I've seen over the years, Dunstall got it right (but you have to like the "loopy" look), and Madass makes perfect copies of them. Personally, I make my own, then I can get the bend where I like the feel, and make sure it clears the kick lever. I like the kicker leaning forward so it doesn't rub on my shin while riding, most aftermarket ones, like the Clubman ones, don't allow this.

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If the part of the lever which carries the rubber is over the base of your toes and the lever is reasonably level when you are not changing gear. the lever being reversed does not matter. But if the lever is pointing down, when you come to change gear you push partly longitudinally up the change lever. The direction of the gear shift is important. In my mind, I always sit up and pull back to slow down and push to go forwards, so my gear shift is always one up and the rest down. That way you never make a mistake if a moment of crisis occurs.
 
MexicoMike said:
I had planned to buy the CNW rearset but am considering the NYC now, as well.
Broken link removed
https://nycnorton.com/product/rearsets/.

I have never dealt with NYC. Anyone have experience with NYC and/or with their rearset?

I like the fact that the NYC will mount to the original Z-plate; I prefer that look though I appreciate that the CNW set is lighter and I like their elegant brake switch incorporation. I THINK I like the idea of the CNW change to the shift pattern but wonder if I would have trouble with it since it is different than what I'm used to.

That being said I regularly hit the rear brake to shift gears and visa versa when I go back/forth from the Commando to other bikes so it probably doesn't matter...;)
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I have the NYC rearsets and they’re beautifully made. NYC very good to deal with even as far away as Oz
 
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They NYC set does look nice but I decided on the CNW set and ordered it today. So, so far, the Commando will be getting the E-Smiths instruments, a new set of Premiers, and the Rearset. I MIGHT buy a set of AL rims for it (stock size) to replace the OEM steel rims but haven't decided about that yet.
 
I too have the Alton E start which has been perfect for five years now.
I leave the kick starter on perhaps needlessly, but I figure IF the Alton ever failed I would be able to start it myself and get home.
 
Agree but I figure I can always bump start it if the starter/batt fails. When I was (very) young I often bump started my old '71 Commando simply because I thought it was cool! After all, that's what the racers did! :)
 
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