Nova Scotia Presumed Consent

I’m just saying that no one is forcing anything on you. They’re just giving you a choice.
I disagree. Opting in is a choice. Presuming is not a choice. Unless the law says that they must have in hand a document where your opted in or out, then the law has removed your choice. Think about this: You opt out and carry whatever proof with you. You're in a tragic accident and you get separated from that proof - you will be treated as opted in unless the law includes safeguards. The current laws have built-in safeguards - you have a donor opt in with you or you are out.
 
Not exactly how it works Greg , very easy to opt/out , info saved on several diff. places including family and your Dr. …. not really much of a big deal around here , mostly we all help each other anyway we can …. I understand your issues , just not valid in the place …. we all sorta know each other if ya know what I mean …
 
Not exactly how it works Greg , very easy to opt/out , info saved on several diff. places including family and your Dr. …. not really much of a big deal around here , mostly we all help each other anyway we can …. I understand your issues , just not valid in the place …. we all sorta know each other if ya know what I mean …
Craig,

A proper system used by all would be fine with me. In the US, that's a hard no can do!

At a minimum we would have about 60 systems and as many as several thousand depending on the laws of the various States, counties, cities, city counties and so on. Perfect example, my driver's license expires in 4 years. There was a federal mandate that to fly you needed a special mark on your ID. That was supposed to take effect in 2021 (if I remember right) and now in 2023 (again if I remember right). So, for me to get it, I need to renew my driver's license early (and pay), and I need certain forms of ID I do not have. For instance, my passport would work, but since it's expired, it won't. Now, if I had a Canadian a border crossing card, or was a Green Card holder I would be good - it's just the natural born citizens who are not trusted (even though I've held the country's highest security clearances and every US federal security organization has records on me back to high school). The fact that I've had a Virginia Driver's license since 1970 means nothing either.

Finally, family and doctors are not enough - in my past four near death experiences family and doctors only knew I was in the hospital because I survived and told them.
 
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Yup , I get that , was pointing out one of our different ways of doing things … not much reaction here when it became law , it just another way of life compared to United States of America ….
 
It is rare today that I get to debate anything without upset people and it's pretty rare to learn anything about other cultures since so many think it's their way or to hell with you.

Even though we are neighbors and mostly "good buddies" we are very different and to me, neither is better or worse.

I've enjoyed this thread!
 
When I’m in Canada I never feel like I’m somewhere foreign heck it’s Canada not Ubekastan , but Quebec now that’s a tad different
 
Yup , I get that , was pointing out one of our different ways of doing things … not much reaction here when it became law , it just another way of life compared to United States of America ….
When I read this, I hear a confidence in a goverment that isn't corrupt. Like I remember here.
BUT, be careful that confidence doesn't lapse into complacency.
(Both side grands Canadian born)
Corruption is a natural progression.
 
Corruption here , in other forms , mostly dealing with $ side … when gov. puts into action things that most folks do anyway it a non-issue …. We a poor province so have no clout on Fed stage and that mostly okay as long as they don’t F—- with us , seems to work, well mostly
 
From what I've read on this law, it applies only to those residing in NS for at least past twelve months. Must be opt'd out via indicating on a piece of ID (driver license or health care card presumably). Family can override the presumed consent at time of death, so still best to let those around you know your wishes.

A single donor can save or alleviate suffering of 80 people. New law has already lead to more organs being transplanted in NS.
 
Yes it is great news , I been searching for a new,better brain for quite some time now .....
I hear that they have perserved Einstein's brain, but it's been pickled in a jar for the last 77 years!
 
A single donor can save or alleviate suffering of 80 people. New law has already lead to more organs being transplanted in NS.
Do you know of a source that describes how to save 80 people? I know a few but it's interesting that there are so many. It would also know what parts of a fat, arthritic, old man with heart and lung problems can help someone else.
 
Do you know of a source that describes how to save 80 people? I know a few but it's interesting that there are so many. It would also know what parts of a fat, arthritic, old man with heart and lung problems can help someone else.

First heard that on a web newspage describing the NS new law.
Here is similar info from another source:

How many lives can one organ donor save?
One deceased organ donor can save up to eight lives! Two people can be freed from dialysis treatments with the donation of two kidneys. A donated liver can be split so that two people receive the gift. In addition, two lungs can give the gift of life to two people and the pancreas and heart can also be donated.

Organ donation icons

When you add it all up: 1 = 8!

Is tissue donation important?
Yes! One tissue donor – someone who can donate donate bone, tendons, cartilage, connective tissue, skin, corneas, sclera, heart valves and vessels – can impact the lives of as many as 75 people.
"
So up to 8 can benefit by recieving an organ directly, and 75 more from recieving various tissues/cells.

Source:

Of course not everything can be used from a single donor, either from 'lack of maintenance' issues or trauma situations.
 
First heard that on a web newspage describing the NS new law.
Here is similar info from another source:

How many lives can one organ donor save?
One deceased organ donor can save up to eight lives! Two people can be freed from dialysis treatments with the donation of two kidneys. A donated liver can be split so that two people receive the gift. In addition, two lungs can give the gift of life to two people and the pancreas and heart can also be donated.

Organ donation icons

When you add it all up: 1 = 8!

Is tissue donation important?
Yes! One tissue donor – someone who can donate donate bone, tendons, cartilage, connective tissue, skin, corneas, sclera, heart valves and vessels – can impact the lives of as many as 75 people.
"
So up to 8 can benefit by recieving an organ directly, and 75 more from recieving various tissues/cells.

Source:

Of course not everything can be used from a single donor, either from 'lack of maintenance' issues or trauma situations.
Informative in two ways. The 80 makes sense now - knew about the 8. The other side is how few organ donors are able to contribute - didn't realize that. Die in your sleep - not likely. Die of old age - not likely. Die in the hospital after a car wreck, being shot, falling off the roof, etc. - likely.
 
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