More Triumph trouble for Garner...

TonyA said:
JUST WAIT , they will be trying to wedge this motor into the Norton Frame because something tells me it won't handle quite as well the NORTON. The laws of physics never change .
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What a concept. :shock:
 
contours said:
TonyA said:
JUST WAIT , they will be trying to wedge this motor into the Norton Frame because something tells me it won't handle quite as well the NORTON. The laws of physics never change .
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What a concept. :shock:
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A modern Triton. Now that is a very good ides
 
Can't wait to crawl all over this thing. I really like Triumph products. But from what I see, aesthetics and external components only, not performance, I'm still hanging with the Norton. Reliability is not necessarily a slam dunk with the Triumphs. We'll just have to wait and see, won't we.
 
Having another look, http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/bikes ... 6/thruxton ABS, traction control, throttle by wire. Nice features. Was kind of hoping it to be 2 up like the previous Thruxton and an Ohlin fork instead of a Showa. I'm sure its an improvement anyway, but I'm an Ohlin fan. They are also producing liquid cooled 1200CC Bonnies, but with less output than the Thruxton (why would they do that?) and still sporting a small diameter fork (or that?) . The components are definitely there, not sure about the fit and finish craftsmanship. Can't wait to test ride it. Or them.
 
One of the big complaints voiced against the 865 Bonnies and Thruxtons, was that they were too much alike. There were only very minor differences between them. People who liked the Trux, found basically a dressed up Bonnie, not a hotted up cafe racer with markedly better performance.
Well, Triumph has now changed all that.
The 1200 Trux and Thrux R will have better performance. Both power and handling, as well as a different look.
Good for Triumph. I think they got it right this time.

I really like my 865 Bonnie, but I intend to test ride one of the base model Thruxtons at GC when they are available.
 
Britfan60 said:
Having another look, http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/bikes ... 6/thruxton ABS, traction control, throttle by wire. Nice features. Was kind of hoping it to be 2 up like the previous Thruxton and an Ohlin fork instead of a Showa. I'm sure its an improvement anyway, but I'm an Ohlin fan. They are also producing liquid cooled 1200CC Bonnies, but with less output than the Thruxton (why would they do that?) and still sporting a small diameter fork (or that?) . The components are definitely there, not sure about the fit and finish craftsmanship. Can't wait to test ride it. Or them.
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The Bonnies, or T120 versions, have a heavy crank and low compression ratio to increase low rpm torque and use what is called the "high torque" engine.

The Thruxtons have a light crank and higher compression ratio to increase higher rpm torque and peak power and make the engine more responsive to revs, it uses the "high power" engine.

So they are deliberately giving the different bikes a different engine tune. They both sound interesting to me and I definitely wanna test both before deciding!

I agree with you in that it is a shame the R is a solo seat, but looking at the pics, I think the 'normal' Thruxton has a dual seat. And I'm pretty sure it will be available for the R in the extensive options lists.

According to my dealer, the earliest we'll be able to actually see them is at the motorcycle show 28th Nov to 6th Dec here in UK. With them being at the dealers shortly afterwards.

I can hardly wait!
 
The most surprising thing is the pricing, if my info is correct. The pricing is going to be almost identical to the outgoing models, so right around $10,000 US. The Thruxton R with it's more expensive components, Brembos etc will be $12,900 .
The Bonnies were a lot of motorcycle for the money before, even more now if this holds true.
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Glen

More Triumph trouble for Garner...
 
$14500 R Usd and $12500 regular Thruxton. The R comes in red & silver with black, white, or green for regular. Available in April, 250 R units for North America with special bronze inspection cover and 1 solid gold to a lucky guy, then 1 to each dealer, then regular ordering! The bikes can be viewed in the US mid December at IMS New York Then Boston with a VIP pass 1 week later (which I have LOL ) and ditto on the west coast. Vance and Hines pipes will be less then $900. The bikes are not thru final EPA so no HP figures yet!
 
International Motosports in Langley has them on their website and are taking orders,$500 saving for preordering. The price for the Thruxton R with the discount is $14,950 CDN which is $11,400 US or 7500GBP.
Glen
 
I know a few Bonnie owners that didn't exactly have stellar reliability or service either. Rode with a fella the other day who has a '12 Scrambler. Oil blowing out of the rocker boxes. Had his share of problems and he's done with it. Reseal and sell. I'm not knocking the bike, but nothing is 100% reliable. Parts and service were an issue for a few and Triumph has been out there for a while. Although I've had my share of issues, Norton is getting their act together. Listening and responding. Like I said, I like Triumphs, but they seem to me a little generic by comparison. You get a lot of bike for the money, good value, just not as much bike overall. That said....I still can't wait to test that R. I think the HP is going to be around 100 and its already advertised as having 120Nm torque.
 
worntorn said:
The price for the Thruxton R with the discount is $14,950 CDN which is $11,400 US or 7500GBP.
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Wow! Is my infatuation for the Norton worth an additional $11K?!! :eek: Had I not been lusting after the 961 for so long I might have held on and, upon learning about the Thruxton R, I just might have put down a deposit with Triumph. I know all too well how reliable they can be. My Daytona 955i required a few simple mods, but now it's perfect. I'm not expecting such an easy time with my 961.

Of course, hindsight is always 20/20. :roll:
 
contours said:
worntorn said:
The price for the Thruxton R with the discount is $14,950 CDN which is $11,400 US or 7500GBP.
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Wow! Is my infatuation for the Norton worth an additional $11K?!! :eek: Had I not been lusting after the 961 for so long I might have held on and, upon learning about the Thruxton R, I just might have put down a deposit with Triumph. I know all too well how reliable they can be. My Daytona 955i required a few simple mods, but now it's perfect. I'm not expecting such an easy time with my 961.

Of course, hindsight is always 20/20. :roll:
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Contours take a look at my prices a few posts back, they are from the Triumph US Dealers website dated 10/30/15 which was Friday!!!
 
Nothing stopping a US resident from buying in Canada or vice versa. Right now with our low dollar (oil) there are deals to be had for US buyers in Canada.
When the CDN Dollar goes the other way, the deals are often in the US. I bought the Daytona at a US dealership a couple of years ago when the CDN dollar was above par.
And zero problems other than the speeding tickets.

Glen
 
I own a carbed 2006 Bonneville T100, bought it new.
It's been bulletproof from day one.
The leaking valve cover is a problem on some of these machines mainly because the dealers who service them are too lazy or cheap (or both) to ensure that they use fresh o-ring/seals on the cover bolts, and then propely tighten the cover bolts.
Triumph did not make the process any easier for servicing mehanics, but all the same - it doesn't require a rocket scientist to do properly.
The early Bonnies had minor issues, but one major one was the starter idler pin boss in the crankcase could crack apart preventing the starter gear from spinning the crank.
Today the case boss is reinforced, but back in 2002, if this happened, you had to get new crankcases, $3,200 new from Triumph. Unless the bike was still under warranty.

With what Triumph learned building, and selling boat loads of 865s over the years, I'm sure the 1200 is going to be a great machine, just as the 865 has become.
 
BPHORSEGUY said:
Contours take a look at my prices a few posts back, they are from the Triumph US Dealers website dated 10/30/15 which was Friday!!!
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Not sure I caught the post you're referring to. Higher or lower than what I quoted?
 
contours said:
BPHORSEGUY said:
Contours take a look at my prices a few posts back, they are from the Triumph US Dealers website dated 10/30/15 which was Friday!!!
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Not sure I caught the post you're referring to. Higher or lower than what I quoted?
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Look at page 6 of this thread 2nd post from bottom!
 
BPHORSEGUY said:
$14500 R Usd and $12500 regular Thruxton. The R comes in red & silver with black, white, or green for regular. Available in April, 250 R units for North America with special bronze inspection cover and 1 solid gold to a lucky guy, then 1 to each dealer, then regular ordering! The bikes can be viewed in the US mid December at IMS New York Then Boston with a VIP pass 1 week later (which I have LOL ) and ditto on the west coast. Vance and Hines pipes will be less then $900. The bikes are not thru final EPA so no HP figures yet!
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OK, Here it is again!!!!
 
BritTwit said:
That's why we are all lucky that there are so many MC companies producing so many different bikes.
Everyone can find something that appeals to them from one manufacturer or another.
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BIG problem for norton, struggling at best, and only offering the 961, they need a cruiser styled bike, and bigger sized, i bet that'd sell like hotcakes

same engine they have now would be a great start, all they need to basically do is come up with a frame and add the bits, easy then also to come up with a few variants

i'm 6.2 and wanna sit in a bike, not on (or worse on top of) it, or in a tight squeezed way, a crotch rocket styled bke has no appeal to me

no way norton's gonna survive with all eggs in a basket (like before) and there is a HUGE cruiser market out there

norton need's to focus on bikes today and move on from the past stuff, or at least in a few other new directions
 
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