More Triumph trouble for Garner...

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Word is that Triumph are about to launch an 1100 or 1200cc 100bhp air / liquid cooled version of the twin cylinder Bonnie range. Called the Street Tracker and with an R version equipped with Ohlins and Brembos front and rear.

Estimated prices in the £11k region.

This can't be very good news for Mr Garner me thinks!

I'll certainly be keeping an eye on the press, its the kinda Bonnie I've been toying with building for a while...
 

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If this is true, then I see a new Triumph in the garage to keep my vintage units company

As far as trouble for Norton, maybe, maybe not. Competition is a good thing. Maybe it will lead to an additional Norton model in the next years to compete with this new Triumph. The 961's, as we know, is basically the Dreer design. If sales can support growth and R&D, then who knows what Norton might bring to the market in the next 5 years

I like what the new Norton company is trying to do, and wish them the best.
 
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Not for me, with that hideous rad on the front. Bonnies have to be air cooled.....!
 

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Very interesting.

I like the R model.
Dual disks up front - finally!
Frame front radiator, regrettable concession to modernity, and big government regulations, but disguised fairly well for what it is.
I like the faux cooling fins. Tastefully styled fins on a liquid cooler engine says "we took care to preserve that classic look".
Nice remodel of the primary cover, looks like true classic Bonnie style cover - Clutch actuator on bottom cleans up the cover top. Give that designer a raise, and a promotion!
I wonder, has the missing 6th gear found its way into the tranny at last? :lol:
My only concern would be - final weight. Stock 865 is pushing close to 500 lbs. What can we expect from this waterpumper?
My vote is for a 1100cc mill, a new lighter frame with better geometry at the front end.

We all knew that manufacturers would be forced to go to liquid cooling by regs. This bike is no suprise.

I'm hopeful Triumph's final design that is delivered to showrooms will address some of the styling issues, and keep the weight down.

Overall, I think Bloor's boys did a good job here.
 

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I couldn't agree more... I'm really very interested... But Bloor's boys have got to keep the lard off the thing !!
 
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And make sure they engineer a bit of 'soul' back into the thing....
 
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its probably being made in Thailand with the other "bonnies" may as well buy jap , the badge means nothing
 
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"spy" shots? Don't think so! Big tip off here.
The Tracker R version is a competitor for the 961 as in theory it would be the closest rival, and would have a large company with a good reputation behind it. A real alternative at last.
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-new ... 26040.html
It'll probably be a few Ks cheaper too. For me. If it looks good, it'll be a no-brainer. :lol:
 

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1963wak said:
its probably being made in Thailand with the other "bonnies" may as well buy jap , the badge means nothing
Every manufacturer sources components from locations around the world these days. Many assemble their machines “overseas”. If the design adheres to Classic brit bike form, at least to some extent, then it will be appealing to me even if assembled in Asia.
FWIW, if the new bike’s concept, design, execution, and final performance are appealing to me, I don’t much care if it’s made on Mars. I’ll probably want one.
I will just wait to see what Triumph actually deliver in 2016.
 
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BritTwit said:
1963wak said:
its probably being made in Thailand with the other "bonnies" may as well buy jap , the badge means nothing
Every manufacturer sources components from locations around the world these days. Many assemble their machines “overseas”. If the design adheres to Classic brit bike form, at least to some extent, then it will be appealing to me even if assembled in Asia.
FWIW, if the new bike’s concept, design, execution, and final performance are appealing to me, I don’t much care if it’s made on Mars. I’ll probably want one.
I will just wait to see what Triumph actually deliver in 2016.
Me too. Still Heard nothing from Norton in Spain. doesn't inspire confidence.

There's nothing you can do about where it's made, and if it bothers you then don't buy. But I think you'll find that most vehicle companies look for economies and that means globalisation instead of appeasing the pendantic critics and the nostalgic sentiments of a few sensitive but lucky wealthy first world buyers.
 
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I'm really not liking the radiator, maybe the final production form will look better but I doubt it!
 
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Me too, I was all for the new Indian Scout until a saw the mahoosive radiator dangling off the front of it. I might just be old fashioned but I don't think naked bikes suit liquid cooling.
 
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as emission laws get tighter, you will continue to see the demise of air-cooled bikes. start up emissions is what is the most difficult to meet. thus the liquid cooling, either by oil or water.
 
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Dozer said:
Me too, I was all for the new Indian Scout until a saw the mahoosive radiator dangling off the front of it. I might just be old fashioned but I don't think naked bikes suit liquid cooling.
That's funny I thought the exact same thing about the Scout!
 
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The Road Tracker might give me pause on a new Norton, at least until I see something more from Triumph than a mule. Although I think the Norton is very desirable, I have to admit a big, sporty, British twin with some dealer support is tempting. I also agree with some of the comments here about the radiator being integrated into the frame. If you're going to put a radiator on a bike, make it a visual component. I have no issues with the oil coolers now. Why not just build on the existing design?
 
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The Ducati Scrambler for the US market will be made in the Far East, they are all following the Auto guys, if they don't do it they will not survive.
 

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kommando said:
The Ducati Scrambler for the US market will be made in the Far East, they are all following the Auto guys, if they don't do it they will not survive.
It does make sense.
The concept, engineering, and styling are done in Europe.
The construction is done in the low wage/cost region.
 
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