MK III Tool Tray in a MK II?

Since I plan to do a bit of traveling on my MK II Roadster and I like to be prepared for minor breakdowns, I want to carry a few basic tools. Will the MK III tool tray fit under the seat of a MK II?

Yes, or the Mk1A/Mk2A tool tray (no slot for the Mk3 seat latch).

You would have to relocate the rectifier (if it still has the standard rectifier?) and flasher relay.

Fits fine in my 74, orig flasher & rect

Be interested to see how useful you find it. I just carry my cargo net in it and whip that out to strap down a tool bag onto the back of the seat, if I'm going far, or when I've just repaired something(!), in case.

concours said:

Fits fine in my 74, orig flasher & rect

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Yes, if it's a later Mk2 with the Mk2A rectifier bracket.

Your 74 Roadster has a pocket for the tool kit in the left side cover.

maylar said:

Your 74 Roadster has a pocket for the tool kit in the left side cover.

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No harm in having a little additional storage space though.

True. On my bike I wrap the tool roll in a small towel (polishing rag, oil wiper) and just set in the space between the side cover and battery. There's enough room there as to not to encroach on the wiring and I don't have to deal with that darn Dzus fastener - (eyesight and arthritic fingers make that a chore nowadays). I also carry spares and an exhaust nut spanner tool in my tail bag.

Gotta be prepared.

maylar said:

Your 74 Roadster has a pocket for the tool kit in the left side cover.

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That's full too. Tire spoons, electrical bits, spanners, zip ties, tape, etc.

Dan1950 said:

Since I plan to do a bit of traveling on my MK II Roadster and I like to be prepared for minor breakdowns, I want to carry a few basic tools. Will the MK III tool tray fit under the seat of a MK II?

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The tool tray that you would want to get is for the Mark IA/IIA p/n 06.4173
It is different from the Mark III tool tray in that it doesn't have a cutout for the Mark III seat lock.

After moving the rectifier and turn signal flasher on the forward side of the frame bulkhead, you need to move the wiring harness forward a little bit so that the wires for the rectifier, turn signal flasher and brake light switch are moved to the forward side of the frame bulkhead as well.

For the turn signal bracket you would want the mounting screw as short as possible and use a low profile nut. This way it won't chafe into the plastic tool tray.

You may want to consider using Mylar tape as a chafe protector on the rear fender and also the frame rails.

On my Mark IIA I custom mounted a tool bag on the grab rail and I use the plastic tool tray for light bulbs, tie wraps, safety wire, aspirin, etc.


Peter Joe

Is there room for a floor jack or lift?

PeterJoe said:

After moving the rectifier and turn signal flasher on the forward side of the frame bulkhead

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The MKII already has those parts on the front side. Wiring for the brake switch goes through a bracket hanging from the bulkhead (can't find it in the parts list... LAB?)

maylar said:

The MKII already has those parts on the front side.

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I don't know if they all did as according to the Mk2/2A supplement, the 06-4974 rectifier bracket was "Mk2a" at least about the time the supplement was published.

maylar said:

Wiring for the brake switch goes through a bracket hanging from the bulkhead (can't find it in the parts list... LAB?)

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Wouldn't that be the 06-4974 "Mk2a" rectifier bracket as it was fitted to later Mk2s (link, below) as I can't think of any alternative Mk2 bracket in that location?

L.A.B. said:

Wouldn't that be the 06-4974 "Mk2a" rectifier bracket as it was fitted to later Mk2s (link, below) as I can't think of any alternative Mk2 bracket in that location?

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Yes, that's the bracket I'm thinking of. Interesting that it's on the MKIII parts list and not MKIIA, as my Aug '74 MKII has it.

maylar said:

Yes, that's the bracket I'm thinking of. Interesting that it's on the MKIII parts list and not MKIIA, as my Aug '74 MKII has it.

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As mentioned, it is in the Mk2/2A supplement (at the bottom of the list with no item number and for "Mk2a").
Also on AN's Mk2A diagram (item 16) although not drawn accurately:
https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-drawing/174/850mk2a-carburettors-air-box-battery-tray

L.A.B. said:

Yes, or the Mk1A/Mk2A tool tray (no slot for the Mk3 seat latch).

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You would have to relocate the rectifier (if it still has the standar

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Mart UK said:

Be interested to see how useful you find it. I just carry my cargo net in it and whip that out to strap down a tool bag onto the back of the seat, if I'm going far, or when I've just repaired something(!), in case.

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Actually I'm looking for someplace to put my gloves in warm weather along with maybe some spark plugs and a spark plug socket, etc.

maylar said:

Your 74 Roadster has a pocket for the tool kit in the left side cover.

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Yes, adequately sized for a couple of condoms, a toothbrush and just possibly a very brief pare of briefs. So you would be just about ready for anything, as long as it doesn’t require any tools for roadside repairs.
I have found small sealed battery (it has spade connectors to which I have soldered connections suitable for our bikes) gives brilliant performance on my Mk2. It leaves a large space to store tools. I use a 1 LT oil bottle modified to fit the space with a heat gun and a lid cut into it. This is adequate space for most tools you are likely to need
regards
Al

The tail section on my fastback is a great storage space. I have a good quality folding tool kit that slides in there perfectly. The case is semi-soft, and uses a zipper to secure it self closed. I used some thin closed cell foam sheeting to ensure that all of the sockets, screw driver bits, etc. stay secure in their elastic restraints. I added another layer of foam that has cut-outs for a small adjustable wrench, a small pair of vise-grips, and an emergency clutch lever.

I also have fitted a small set of hard bags that suit the bikes styling very well. I made custom mounts for them that bolt up to the mounts of my Bruce Chessell package rack. In the right hand one, I carry a quantity of zip ties, a cigarette lighter outlet adapter, and a tool roll that has a variety of tools that the other tool kit does not, including BSW wrenches, spark plug wrench, allen keys, electrical tape, and even a butane powered soldering iron with solder. There is enough room left over for a spare set of cold weather gloves and a jacket liner, for cold fall night rides home.

For longer trips, I also carry a small electric air compressor, hence the cigarette lighter adapter.

I have a small tail bag on my parcel rack that I put my documents in, as well as a hat, mask, spare glasses, cellphone charger cable, and a few small bungie cords.

The left side bag is reserved for occasional cargo: small shopping trips, an overnight bag, or whatever.

As a result, I rarely use my LH side cover to carry any thing. It is kind of a PITA to get on and off with the Fasback tank (the rear of the tank has to be lifted to allow the dzus bracket to slide outward.)

Hence, I can do a few nights on the road (staying in cheap motels) without feeling like a gypsy caravan, or having to resort to a back pack.

FWIW

This tool roll is very similar to the one included with my MKII, which was stored in the side cover pocket. AN says it's not designed to be carried on the bike, maybe because it has a few more items in it. I still carry the factory tools (minus tire spoons) and have added a few more things to it and I can stuff it into the side cover. I also have a tail bag that I love that has room for some spares and larger tools like an exhaust nut spanner.

Unfortunately, that kit is too large for the underseat tray.