ID Plate Removal & Replacement?

T95 · Mar 11, 2011

I need to remove, and at some time replace my frame ID plate. I have read that this plate is fastened using hammer drive screws. It looks like one way to remove the plate is to grind off the head and punch the remaining stud into the frame. I thought I once read that these fasteners have a head, that accepts a driver, that can be used to unscrew it. So being completely unfamiliar with this fastener, is this thing driven or screwed into place?

bwolfie · Mar 11, 2011

Driven. Drill off the head and punch the stem thru. Unless you have the tree's off and bearings out, then you can pry them out from the back.

swooshdave · Mar 11, 2011

T95 said:
is this thing driven or screwed into place?

Both. :mrgreen:

You can either take a dremel and create some screwdriver slots or carefully cut the heads off and drive into the stem.

pelican · Mar 11, 2011

If you don't care about your old plate you can try using a screwdriver under the plate to just pop them out first. 2 of my 4 pryed out easily. Then try the drill or grind

T95 · Mar 11, 2011

So were these things originally screwed or driven into place, and what is the recommendation to replace them?

pelican · Mar 11, 2011

I think they were probably driven. The shaft part of the rivet is threaded so when you tap them in they screw themselves into the headstock. They are really short so they won't turn much...

T95 · Mar 11, 2011

pelican said:
I think they were probably driven. The shaft part of the rivet is threaded so when you tap them in they screw themselves into the headstock. They are really short so they won't turn much...

As far as replacements does one size fit all or will I need to look for an oversized replacement to get them to grip?

pelican · Mar 11, 2011

I think they should be ok with the standard

Don Tovey · Mar 12, 2011

Hi,
When I drilled mine out I only drilled the head of the rivet to weaken it.
I was then able to knock the head off & remove the plate without damaging it or making the holes in head stock any bigger.
Once the frame was powder coated I just rivited it back on with ordinary rivits.
Cheers Don

T95 · Mar 12, 2011

Thanks for the info boys! The removal seems straight forward, but I just wanted to ensure I had the right approach before doing any unnecessary damage. I believe those hammer drive screws are still available, but being new to me, I wanted to understand how to install them properly.

DogT · Mar 12, 2011

I took an old 3/8" bolt, drilled a countersink hole in the middle of the head and used that to seat the drive in rivets. If you just use a hammer, you will flatten them.

Dave
69S

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