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I asked you guys about a horn relay and you all were great help.
The horn is crazy loud. Cracks me up everytime I hit the button. Sounds like my Dodge Ram.
Now I am doing my halogen head light which I bought 2 years ago.
I need a relay for that so I'm asking to be pointed in the right direction for which kind to get and where.
Not sure if I need a 4 post or 5. If someone has a wiring diagram that would be great.
Thanx, Guido
 
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Head light relay
 
Guido said:
I need a relay for that so I'm asking to be pointed in the right direction for which kind to get and where.
. If someone has a wiring diagram that would be great.
Thanx, Guido

Guido,
a good inshell kit come from Easternbeaver. http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wirin ... _kits.html
He is a Canadian now living in Japan who knows Nortons.
send him an email and explain what you are doing and he will set you up. These are nice kits.
Cheers,
Thomas
CNN
 
CanukNortonNut said:
Guido said:
I need a relay for that so I'm asking to be pointed in the right direction for which kind to get and where.
. If someone has a wiring diagram that would be great.
Thanx, Guido

Guido,
a good inshell kit come from Easternbeaver. http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wirin ... _kits.html
He is a Canadian now living in Japan who knows Nortons.
send him an email and explain what you are doing and he will set you up. These are nice kits.
Cheers,
Thomas
CNN


+ 1 on Eastern Beaver, I have been using them for years on my 75 Commando, they fit in the shell. Still fit when I installed the Truck-lite LED last year
 
and another big endorsement for Eastern Beaver, just ripped off the 45 year old wiring harness and used their PC-8 in my rewiring, very nicely made
 
and another big endorsement for Eastern Beaver
using their PC and relays on my MKIII as I put it back together with all new wiring etc
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I have a relay on the horn but not the headflight. Everything functions as it should. What would be the advantage of adding a relay (or two) to the headlight ciruit?
 
Danno said:
I have a relay on the horn but not the headlight. Everything functions as it should. What would be the advantage of adding a relay (or two) to the headlight circuit?

A relay would bypass all the switches and bullet connectors and wires between the battery and the headlamp. End result is higher voltage to the load and brighter lights.
 
swooshdave said:
If it were me I'd ditch the halogen and go with a LED bulb.

Does the LED bulb require any rewiring to the stock connector of the old bulb?
Because the halogen light I have comes with it's own lens which is flat and it's own connector.
I would like to retain the stock lens if I could.
 
Guido said:
swooshdave said:
If it were me I'd ditch the halogen and go with a LED bulb.

Does the LED bulb require any rewiring to the stock connector of the old bulb?
Because the halogen light I have comes with it's own lens which is flat and it's own connector.
I would like to retain the stock lens if I could.


The Tuck-Lite LED looks like a sealed beam, you have to remove your old glass reflector. It plugs right in to the same connector and is polarity insensitive. Plug and play, no rewiring needed.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/1914125407 ... noapp=true
 
Guido said:
I would like to retain the stock lens if I could.

There are replacement Halogen light bulbs that fit the original headlight lens. Clubman Racing Accessories as well as other resources sells them in 60/55 Watts. If you're using the original alternator and also electronic ignition I would recommend a lower wattage bulb. Paul Goff sells them in 45/40 which is what I am using in my Norton. I must say it's pretty bright!
http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/goffybulbs.htm

If you are using the original lens you may want to consider using your pilot light as a daytime running light. Paul Goff sells a 23 watt bulb for this application and it's incredibly bright as well. The only problem that I had was that it didn't last very long. It might have been that I had a faulty bulb, I don't know. Later I replaced mine with a 20 watt Sylvania bulb which is bright but doesn't have the pizzazz as that 23 watt bulb however, this bulb has lasted a long time and is still going strong. When using a 20 or 23 watt pilot bulb you will need to have it's switch off when the headlight is turned on. Apparently when both lights are on at the same time it puts out too much heat. You can get around this easily if you have the original headlight switch (P/N 34660) by simply moving your pilot bulb wires to the unused terminals on the headlight switch. If you don't have that original headlight switch Holden Vintage & Classic sells a nice quality replacement switch that will do the job.
You would also need to buy the special bezel nut and threaded washer to go along with this switch.
http://bit.ly/297in1m

Below is a wiring diagram that uses two relays. The drawing uses 5 pin relays however 4 pin relays will work just fine and the pin call out will be the same. Most relays have a resistor shunted across the coil winding so that they are not polarity sensitive. However, some do have diodes instead of the resistor and those are polarity sensitive. Those relays will tell you which terminal's would be plus or minus.

Basically the wires that are connected to the headlight are redirected to the relay windings and your high beam bulb wire is tied in with the new high beam light. Then there are just a few additional wires to complete the system.

Head light relay



On my Norton I had a little fun and decided to wire my bike with three headlight relays. The neat thing about relays is that not only are they designed to handle higher currents allowing you to use small switches, they also allow for complex switching as well. With my bike wired this way when the Master Switch is in the PARKING LIGHT position the pilot light will illuminate regardless of the headlight switch position. When the Master Switch is in the OFF position everything is off. When the Master Switch is in the IGNITION position the headlights do not illuminate however when you push the High Beam Flash the high beam will illuminate. In the IGNITION and LIGHTS position either the headlight or the pilot light will illuminate depending on your headlight switch position, high beam flash will work in either headlight switch position.

This is definitely not a required way of wiring, I just had fun and it has been working fine on my bike for almost 10,000 miles now. The relays that I used are the automotive micro sized relays. Below is the diagram of how I wired my motorcycle. In my case I installed an ammeter so that my relays are connected directly to the ammeter.

Head light relay



Peter Joe
 
Guido said:
swooshdave said:
If it were me I'd ditch the halogen and go with a LED bulb.

Does the LED bulb require any rewiring to the stock connector of the old bulb?
Because the halogen light I have comes with it's own lens which is flat and it's own connector.
I would like to retain the stock lens if I could.

I don't remember what the stock setup looks like.
 
Old thread but just now getting around to wire this up.
I need to know what size fuse to use for this Halogen bulb light kit. I am wiring up 2 relays for this.
 
I was going to put the fuse next to the battery for both relays. Are you saying I need to put one for each relay or are you just doing yours that way for your own peace of mind?
If I run just 1 fuse for the both what size should I use? Or is there a formula to figure out the rating myself ?
I really need help with wiring as I am color blind.
 
Guido said:
I was going to put the fuse next to the battery for both relays. Are you saying I need to put one for each relay or are you just doing yours that way for your own peace of mind?
If I run just 1 fuse for the both what size should I use? Or is there a formula to figure out the rating myself ?
I really need help with wiring as I am color blind.


Wire size determines what size fuse is used. If you use 16 gauge wire a 10 amp fuse should be fine. You could probably go 15 amp, but I doubt you will need it. One fuse near the battery should be fine to power the headlight and relays.
Pete
 
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