Jeandr said:
bill said:
it is a sad thing what has happened in France. but is not France VERY regulated as to ownership of fire arms? now IMHO how would this have played out IF some were armed? my guess is there would not have been the line them up and executions one by one.
The same thing happened in a theatre in the US, what was the response from anyone watching the movie? Rambo and the Terminator are fictional characters, the script calls for them to respond in the blink of an eye and kill only bad guys sparing ALL the innocent bystanders, real life doesn't work like that and even a highly trained gun owner would not do any good. You must remember that the nuts who did the carnage in France were ready to die for their cause just like the ones who plowed planes in the WTC towers and the pentagon, the forces are not the same when faced with such opponents and this is what saved some lives in 2001 in the fourth plane, some passengers figured out they were going to die anyway so they retaliated.
Guns don't make a country safer from kamikazes, however, the absence of guns makes for safer living conditions, remember gun deaths are about 30,000 year in year out in the US which is way above the number killed by terrorists.
Jean
Sorry Slick but I can't let Jean's counter factual post go unchallenged.
Jean - Respectfully, we are largely dependent on the MSM for what we know and the MSM is biased to the Left, both here and in Canada; the bias consists mainly of omission, omission of facts and ideas that are contrary to the Left's core beliefs.
For example, your media exposure has left you unaware, with respect to the Colorado shooting, that
" . . . . out of all the movie theaters within 20 minutes of his apartment showing the new Batman movie that night, it was the only one where guns were banned. In Colorado, individuals with permits can carry concealed handgun in most malls, stores, movie theaters, and restaurants. But private businesses can determine whether permit holders can carry guns on their private property. . . . ."
So, there is a lawsuit, by victims of the Colorado theatre shooting, against the theatre chain for barring self defense in their theatre.
Of course, to learn that critical fact, you have to go outside the lefty MSM; here's where it came from.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/ ... eater.html
Second, bad guys logically look for what the MSM calls "soft targets." That term "soft target" is a rhetorical sleight of hand. It hides the truth. What is meant by that term "soft target" is a place where there are unarmed victims. That is what the Paris shooters and the Colorado theatre shooter sought out - a place where there are no guns. Bad guys prefer having a monopoly on guns.
Third, yes, the shooters were suicidal. So . . . . the obvious question is . . . . Why didn't they just shoot themselves in the head? Obviously, because of the inconvenient truth - they had a purpose. The whole plan was a no go if they knew that some Parisians at large carried guns. Terrorists do not choose to die for nothing. Respectfully, you knew that.
Lastly, you miss the whole point of Kamikazes - the U.S. Navy was almost defenseless against that weapon.
What you had, effectively, was gun control - a defenseless target. That, is precisely why the Japanese used Kamikazes. Just like these ISIS terrorists.