First Topic - New Jersey Motorsports Park 8/2-3 & 4, 2013

Holmeslice

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Hey Folks,

AHRMA will be at New Jersey Motorsports part on August 2, 3, and 4. This will be the furthest northeast AHRMA has been in many years, so certain to get a lot of folks from up north who don't always make it to the other events around the country.

I just spent a day on the track (there are actually 2!, Thunderbolt and Lightning. We will be on the big one - Thunderbolt) and all I can say is wow, it's a good one. Hot and hazy, fast and crazy.

I expect there will be a good amount of the Northeast and Mid Atlantic bike folks attending. If the track promotes it right, nurtures, and listens to the people, it could turn into a great yearly event.

Come say hello.
 
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Hope you, and the event, do well. AHRMA could use some more steady venues to solidify the series.
 
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I did a track day on Thunderbolt last year. There is a series of lefthanders (turns 7,8&9) I think they call it "The bowl" which proved very frustrating. Anyway All the best and lots of luck
 
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speirmoor said:
I did a track day on Thunderbolt last year. There is a series of lefthanders (turns 7,8&9) I think they call it "The bowl" which proved very frustrating. Anyway All the best and lots of luck

You sure you were at Thunderbolt? I think "The Bowl" is on the Lightning course.

Nonetheless, I was there on Monday, riding in anger, and absolutely love the track. Gonna be Hot and Hazy, Fast and Crazy.
 
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This one
First Topic - New Jersey Motorsports Park 8/2-3 & 4, 2013
 
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That's the one. There are only 3 left-handers on that track to speak of. What they call turn 3a/b/c, turn 5, and turn 9.

Turn 9 is a slightly decreasing radius, but it's turn 8 that really makes a difference. Get that right, and all the other corners line up all the way to the front straight.

As far as tracks go this isn't the most technical, but it's fast and flowing, and great for 750cc bikes like our Nortons, while still being tight enough to give our bikes an advantage over some of the "Corner Cripples". I did a lot of passing on some obviously faster modern bikes.
 
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yes you're right I meant my other left hand. The right hand turns 7,8,and 9 is what I was referring to. seems like I was always repositioning myself mid corner. Beautiful track though hope I can make those races in August
 
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All booked and ready to rumble at NJMP. First race weekend for the Nourish Seeley by NYCNorton.com.

Went through a track day there in early July and the bike ran flawlessly right out of the gate.
 
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So I can only attend one day. Which has the most events? Gotta see Kenny run, and drool over his bike in the pits:)
 
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Vulin said:
So I can only attend one day. Which has the most events? Gotta see Kenny run, and drool over his bike in the pits:)

Pick the day with the best weather. My guess is Saturday will likely be the most lively with Sunday racers heading out after their races.
 
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Look forward to seeing you guys there. Ill be the 6'5 30ish guy examining your guys bikes way to much:) Most likely be in a norton shirt.
 
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Well I'll be the short round bald fellow with a patch over one eye, club foot, dark over coat and exhibiting bouts of Tourette's syndrome and Coprolalia.

We should be in one of the garages track side closest to the tower - see NYCNorton and you are there.
 
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I think my wife and I will probably head over on Saturday morning. Haven't seen any Nortons race since the Syracuse Mile way back. (Dave Aldana with the skeleton leathers.)

Yippee!
 
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A bunch of us rode down from NYC to the event. Great day had by all. Met Kenny between races and he brought us up to speed on the parts that go in to his race bikes and customers bikes. Cant wait to check out his shop down the road. Here are the only pix I got
First Topic - New Jersey Motorsports Park 8/2-3 & 4, 2013

First Topic - New Jersey Motorsports Park 8/2-3 & 4, 2013

First Topic - New Jersey Motorsports Park 8/2-3 & 4, 2013

First Topic - New Jersey Motorsports Park 8/2-3 & 4, 2013

First Topic - New Jersey Motorsports Park 8/2-3 & 4, 2013

First Topic - New Jersey Motorsports Park 8/2-3 & 4, 2013

First Topic - New Jersey Motorsports Park 8/2-3 & 4, 2013
 
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Holmeslice said:
This will be the furthest northeast AHRMA has been in many years, so certain to get a lot of folks from up north who don't always make it to the other events around the country.

The classes supposedly representing the popular racing of the 1950s and 1960s: Classic 60s, Premier 500 and 500Gp, had the usual 3-5 entrants in each of them, the same circle-jerk of millionaires that show up at about every AHRMA race to pat each other on the back for laying waste to history.
 
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beng said:
Holmeslice said:
This will be the furthest northeast AHRMA has been in many years, so certain to get a lot of folks from up north who don't always make it to the other events around the country.

The classes supposedly representing the popular racing of the 1950s and 1960s: Classic 60s, Premier 500 and 500Gp, had the usual 3-5 entrants in each of them, the same circle-jerk of millionaires that show up at about every AHRMA race to pat each other on the back for laying waste to history.

You poor picked on sad man. Why didn't you show up with your salt-of-the-earth-try-so-hard-to-keep-it-real machine and show us millionaires how it's done?
 
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beng said:
The classes supposedly representing the popular racing of the 1950s and 1960s: Classic 60s, Premier 500 and 500Gp, had the usual 3-5 entrants in each of them, the same circle-jerk of millionaires that show up at about every AHRMA race to pat each other on the back for laying waste to history.

Sad, sad person, so far off the mark.
 
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Dances with Shrapnel said:
beng said:
The classes supposedly representing the popular racing of the 1950s and 1960s: Classic 60s, Premier 500 and 500Gp, had the usual 3-5 entrants in each of them, the same circle-jerk of millionaires that show up at about every AHRMA race to pat each other on the back for laying waste to history.
Sad, sad person, so far off the mark.

What is off the mark? Anyone can look at the very thin number of entries in those AHRMA classes and the results, and the $50K-$75K invested in each bike and see that it is a 100% accurate observation, nothing more.

Pick up any 50s or 60s motorcycle magazine and look at what racing bikes and racing looked like then, it is nowhere to be found now except in countries with real vintage racing organizations like New Zealand where they actually use(Gasp!) single leading shoe brakes....

AHRMA should simply change it's name to American Obsolete Motorcycle Track-Day Association if they want to hit the nail on the head.

I don't want to drive hundreds of miles to see a Honda, Yamaha or Buell twin running, I don't have to either. And I have already seen the same three real historical racing bikes running in AHRMA, the two old Manx Nortons of the McKeever's, and the only real Seeley in the USA, that of Larry Poons which has been running around here for the last 40 years, good job guys.

When Rob Ianucci and others had real vintage racing motorcycles out in force making up grids roughly like those that existed in the 60s, now that was really interesting. Remember when Roger Reiman dragged his KR750 out of mothballs and beat the ex-Al Gunter/team Obsolete G50 at Daytona? That was a show for sure, a historical show.

Now if you want to talk about sad:

From the thread on Seeley frames:
Dances with Shrapnel said:
And remember that we are making history as we go, so we are historically correct.

That is correct, and the history you are making is that of a handful of millionaires bolting together bikes that never existed in the 60s, racing each other and patting each other on the back for a job well done, thus the accurate use of the phrase "circle jerk".

Instead of AHRMA sticking to any historical racing rules it may have once had, year after year it watered them down so there is no more incentive for anyone to do anything historical. It has not been about history since Rob Ianucci got out of it with his large field of real vintage racing bikes. In AHRMA if someone cries that their bike does not fit the existing rules, they simply change the rules to fit the bike or just plain ignore the spec of the bike and let them race it anyway.

As for Cummings statement about "showing everyone how it is done", I think Larry Poons does this just fine. He runs the real Seeley G50 which he bought new around with the replica bikes, and has fun coming in about in last place every time. Although I am not a fan of the man himself, I respect that he and his bike are the only historical act out there and if someone has not had the chance to take a look at him over the last 40 years they should do so before he retires from tilting at windmills.
Someday if it suits my fancy and I have the extra cash to waste, I will be glad to follow his example and parade around on a real vintage bike in last place in some historical class or track day, and it will be for the sake of the fans of those bikes, not so I can coo at myself in a mirror while holding an AHRMA trophy I won against a field of three wet dreams.
 
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Poor sad beng cannot get any satisfaction :lol: Get's his panties in a bind when challenged on facts.

Fact: beng was not at this venue so is truly clueless as to what transpired. There is no observation but pure speculation on the part of beng in this instance.
Fact: Usual 3-5 entries has everything to do with economy (and maybe coinciding with NIH) and little to do with whatever point you are trying so hard to make. I suspect you would say the same if it were 6-10 entries.
Fact: There was no circle jerk. Makes me wonder what list beng subscribes to (maybe we know his "google" browsing habits, so careful there :oops: )
Fact: Those that I would consider "millionaires" earned it and were the ones with the most authentic original bikes - so go figure.
Fact: AHRMA is far from a track day but introducing fragile slow dangerous original bikes of the era would make it more of a Shriners Parade, get your fez beng :D

Yes, Rob Ianucci took his toys and left the sand box but wait, he was a millionaire. Best of my knowledge is that he never attended nor participate in a circle jerk. As for AHRMA changing their name, I had invited you to start a new thread on purist motorcycle racing and see how many people really give a rats arse about it but you did not take. I suggested that you start your own organization and see how many purists might follow but you did not take. It's ok in my book to have a strong opinion but reading your remarks leads me to think this is pathological in nature.

beng said:
Now if you want to talk about sad:

From the thread on Seeley frames:
Dances with Shrapnel said:
And remember that we are making history as we go, so we are historically correct.

Yes, so sad indeed. :roll: Do you really believe the tripe you write. Honestly, cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

I still stand by that statement you quoted me on.

beng said:
That is correct, and the history you are making is that of a handful of millionaires bolting together bikes that never existed in the 60s, racing each other and patting each other on the back for a job well done, thus the accurate use of the phrase "circle jerk".

Well this is where it is funny because they are not racing in any 60's class. Try F750, but how would you know (fact) as you were not there. As for patting each other on the back for a job well done, there was none except towards the race officials. What I did see was race commraderie and friendships, something you probably lacked much of in your life.

beng said:
Someday if it suits my fancy and I have the extra cash to waste, I will be glad to follow his example and parade around on a real vintage bike in last place in some historical class or track day,

Yes, parade, not race. This is a key point.

beng said:
and it will be for the sake of the fans of those bikes, not so I can coo at myself in a mirror while holding an AHRMA trophy I won against a field of three wet dreams.

Really, in love with ones self. Oh how noble, oh the valore. Quick, give me a break here, an arm, a leg, anything. :lol: I read this and see someone so full of themselves.

Some people just whine and some people go out and live. It was a great weekend and really looking forward to doing it again next year.
 
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My wife and I headed over on Saturday. Great track. Great parking right next to the garages and mingling with the bikes and riders up close. And talking to them... They didn't mind at all. We used to attend the Loudon and Pocono races in the '70s and this was far more enjoyable. Not all millionaires and if they were they didn't look or act it! Plenty of normal guys riding their bikes around the track. Even saw a few people I knew in the small crowd.

If you weren't there you're square dude.

Russ
 
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