Ethanol in gasoline

worntorn

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Maybe it will go away.

Refiners hate it and now the EPA is allowing quite a number to avoid it, which has crashed the corn price.
It was an insane idea from the start, use more than a barrel of energy to create a barrel of energy from corn, then subsidize it to make it happen!
Even the environmentalists figured out that this was a bad idea.
On top of that ,and more importantly, many of us have been forced to use shitty gas in our Nortons!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...iofuel-laws-angering-corn-lobby-idUSKCN1UZ2AV
 
I'm not sure if you are referring to the mandated use of ethanol as corruption or the refinery waivers as corruption.
If it's the waivers, yes could be, but in this case I prefer corruption over corrosion!

Glen
 
I guess if I have choice I would stick with real gasoline , AFAIK no ethanol here (NS) as market too small to justify pump/handling gear change over , warning stickers on most pumps but no ethanol yet .... would be great if it just fades away .... sure has created lots of challenges
 
interestingly on the subject of ethanol, I have a vehicle that had a wacky fuel gauge. I couldn't rely on it, so I always filled the tank, then calculated the gas mileage for every tank out of curiousity. Most of the time I put non ethanol fuel in the tank, but I did some jobs where I wasn't traveling near my non ethanol fuel source. The MPG calculation for 10% ethanol fuel was about 10% less fuel economy, so I was buying 10% more volume of ethanol laced fuel to travel the same miles as non-ethanol fuel. Essentially, that 10% ethanol did nothing. It didn't give me 10% more MPG. I just paid for 10% more fuel volume for nothing...
 
o0norton0o said:
interestingly on the subject of ethanol, I have a vehicle that had a wacky fuel gauge. I couldn't rely on it, so I always filled the tank, then calculated the gas mileage for every tank out of curiousity. Most of the time I put non ethanol fuel in the tank, but I did some jobs where I wasn't traveling near my non ethanol fuel source. The MPG calculation for 10% ethanol fuel was about 10% less fuel economy, so I was buying 10% more volume of ethanol laced fuel to travel the same miles as non-ethanol fuel. Essentially, that 10% ethanol did nothing. It didn't give me 10% more MPG. I just paid for 10% more fuel volume for nothing...
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This effect was established years ago. An auto buff magazine conducted a test using the Chevy version of the Yukon, IIRC, in a measured drive from San Diego, CA to Las Vegas, NV. On successive days they made the round trip starting at the same time, driving legal speeds, flushing the tank between trips. They measured fuel cost, total fuel consumed per trip, and carbon footprint.

Basically they found what you did, carbon footprint was the same, and fuel cost was about the same.

When I have the option to buy non-ethanol, or E-10 at the same pump, I make a mental calculation .... if the non-ethanol cost 15% more per gallon or less, I go with it. At 10% more it is a wash, I willing pay a little more to support the vendor giving me a choice.

Slick
 
One of our local petrol stations had a lot of insurance claims from car owners whose fuel systems had been damaged by the petrol.
 
corn good for making shine and eatin off cob I get non-corn gasoline from a station 2 miles from house around $3 per gallon nothing else goes in lawnmower, bikes, 68 MGB wife's 79 Camaro Berlinetta corngas bad especially for amal carb pilot jets
 
I had been having a friend bring me 5 gallons of no-eth at a time for the old bikes. I recently found a station about 18 miles from here selling no-eth 91, so I drove the old car there and filled it along with all my fuel cans. I will doctor it all up with octane boost, lead substitute and blue Sta-bil as I have been doing.
 
Once the Eco-Nazis eliminate gasoline and diesel fuel production, we'll have to build stills in our backyards to refine ethanol for our bikes.
Don't know what we'll use for lubricants then.
 
Stills are not a problem !!! Plus boiled mazola oil etc. (thickened) would prolly work as Engine, gear box & primary lube just boiled down to different specific thickness .... be gone by then so no worries for me, though it is fun to speculate
 
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