Engine management light ? - Commando 961 Sport Mk2 - 2018 Model.

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Hi everyone. I have been out for a ride tonight on my bike. It not been used for a few weeks. It turned over for a bit before starting and but when running the engine management light stays on. The bike rode fine no loss of power or anything strange and everything seemed to work fine. At one point I pushed the high beam button and the EML went off (May have been a coincidence). Then later I stalled the bike and the EML came back on and would not go off even flicking the high beam. The Bike only done about 2,500 miles and has been decated and has short cans. I had a few issues (I think I am beginning to feel this is the norm if you have a 961) and changed all the Relays to sort starting issue I had and since then been running fine Any ideas please.
 
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Maybe the O2 sensors ? If you could get plugged in at Norton , they should be able to tell you with the OMEX software .
 
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Maybe the O2 sensors ? If you could get plugged in at Norton , they should be able to tell you with the OMEX software .
Great! Owning a Norton can be an expensive business, now this owner will have to ride all the way from Chelmsford to Doddington just to find out about a light on the dashboard! :(
P.S. I'm not trying to belittle anybody's advices on this website, just my little joke.
 

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Occasionally if my 2017CR needs a bit of extra turning over when starting the engine light will come on but goes off after a half hour ride and stays off. If it feels as though it is running ok then take it for a ride.
Do you keep the bike with a trickle charger on it? I find that the bike can be slow to turn over and start if it is cold - and I don't mean minus temperatures only around say 5-10 degreesC - and have this theory that the cranking voltage drops to a point where the sensor voltages get messed up. I am even wondering about experimenting with a lipo pack which will be enough to run the ECU while the bike is cranking if the voltage drops.

Just asking the obvious - it has been decatted and nasty little short open pipes fitted ;) it has been remapped as well?

As I am used to plugging OBD analysers in to read car faults it is frustrating as hell not to be able to do the same with the 961. Of course the answer lies at the door of those nice SCS people if you fancy paying for an ECU swap..........
 
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Maybe the O2 sensors ? If you could get plugged in at Norton , they should be able to tell you with the OMEX software .
Thanks for replying. I Did wonder if it might be a sensor. Seems strange it did go out for a bit though. I may have to take it to a dealer but it’s 40 mile away so would rather not if possible.
 
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Great! Owning a Norton can be an expensive business, now this owner will have to ride all the way from Chelmsford to Doddington just to find out about a light on the dashboard! :(
P.S. I'm not trying to belittle anybody's advices on this website, just my little joke.
As you say expensive but I can deal with that it’s this constant problems which I find frustrating. I have a 1965 Matchless which is more reliable.
 
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Occasionally if my 2017CR needs a bit of extra turning over when starting the engine light will come on but goes off after a half hour ride and stays off. If it feels as though it is running ok then take it for a ride.
Do you keep the bike with a trickle charger on it? I find that the bike can be slow to turn over and start if it is cold - and I don't mean minus temperatures only around say 5-10 degreesC - and have this theory that the cranking voltage drops to a point where the sensor voltages get messed up. I am even wondering about experimenting with a lipo pack which will be enough to run the ECU while the bike is cranking if the voltage drops.

Just asking the obvious - it has been decatted and nasty little short open pipes fitted ;) it has been remapped as well?

As I am used to plugging OBD analysers in to read car faults it is frustrating as hell not to be able to do the same with the 961. Of course the answer lies at the door of those nice SCS people if you fancy paying for an ECU swap..........
Occasionally if my 2017CR needs a bit of extra turning over when starting the engine light will come on but goes off after a half hour ride and stays off. If it feels as though it is running ok then take it for a ride.
Do you keep the bike with a trickle charger on it? I find that the bike can be slow to turn over and start if it is cold - and I don't mean minus temperatures only around say 5-10 degreesC - and have this theory that the cranking voltage drops to a point where the sensor voltages get messed up. I am even wondering about experimenting with a lipo pack which will be enough to run the ECU while the bike is cranking if the voltage drops.

Just asking the obvious - it has been decatted and nasty little short open pipes fitted ;) it has been remapped as well?

As I am used to plugging OBD analysers in to read car faults it is frustrating as hell not to be able to do the same with the 961. Of course the answer lies at the door of those nice SCS people if you fancy paying for an ECU swap..........
Thanks for reply. I did about 50 miles ride last night. On way back when I flicked the high beam switch the EML went off for most of run home. May be coincidence. The Bike had map done with pipes I was told. I keep it trickle charger to. Can I buy a plug in fault machine to use for it to reset EML?
 
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There was a bad batch of lambda sensors that were fitted in 2017-2018 - quite a few of us had the same EML light symptoms & fitting new ones (luckily under warranty for me) cured the problem
 
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There was a bad batch of lambda sensors that were fitted in 2017-2018 - quite a few of us had the same EML light symptoms & fitting new ones (luckily under warranty for me) cured the problem
Thanks for the reply. I will check with the dealer if mine had any changed as well. Although the bike outside manufactures warrantee i do have one from the dealer i bought it from but the trouble is the dealer is 220 miles away from me. May be he send me some an i can fitting them. I guess they the ones you can see in the exhasust at the bottom.
 
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I guess they the ones you can see in the exhasust at the bottom.
Yes, those are the ones on the down pipes - the ECU map for the short cans made the EML light come on most of the time on my bike - when I had the standard cans & map, the light was intermittent
 
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Yes, those are the ones on the down pipes - the ECU map for the short cans made the EML light come on most of the time on my bike - when I had the standard cans & map, the light was intermittent
Thanks for that. May be a bike of black tape over the light on the dial the answer especially as the bike goes and runs well. I will have a chat with the dealer to see if the give me some sensors to try.
 
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Maybe the O2 eliminator resistor plugs will work for you this time ?
 

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A while ago there was a flurry of interest in these labda eliminator plugs but some reports seemed to indicate that they could cause problems for later models. A couple of us bought them but chose not to fit them.

Yes - as I posted in another thread it it immensely frustrating that we can't plug an analyser into the Omex ECU to diagnose problems. if it is correct as you implied in a previous message that cost is not such a big issue you might want to study the SCS ECU discussions in this forum. And look at some preventative mechanical fixes.
 
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A while ago there was a flurry of interest in these labda eliminator plugs but some reports seemed to indicate that they could cause problems for later models. A couple of us bought them but chose not to fit them.

Yes - as I posted in another thread it it immensely frustrating that we can't plug an analyser into the Omex ECU to diagnose problems. if it is correct as you implied in a previous message that cost is not such a big issue you might want to study the SCS ECU discussions in this forum. And look at some preventative mechanical fixes.
Thanks for your thoughts. Do you know where I can get a SCS ECU & is it something I can install or is it a deal fit job please.
 

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Thanks for your thoughts. Do you know where I can get a SCS ECU & is it something I can install or is it a deal fit job please.
There is a SCS Delta thread in this forum - have a read through there. They seem to be a very helpful company.
 
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Thanks for your thoughts. Do you know where I can get a SCS ECU & is it something I can install or is it a deal fit job please.
A while back Matt at SCS Delta UK said they were working on a OMEX to SCS conversion harness . If you have a Euro4 machine with ABS , different again from the Euro3 OMEX conversion . Email or in UK call SCS Delta and speak to Matt Payne.
 
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Thanks. Are theses the things you plug into where the sensor plug into? If so do you then just leave the sensor in the exhaust?
Yes they do , and You can leave the sensor in the exhaust . Or remove them entirely and put in stainless plugs.
 
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