Ebay and stolen bikes

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I have a friend in NM who had 16 bikes stolen. Several Huskys, a Greeves, Yamaha's and a 50 SQ4 that I used to own. So far 8 of the bikes have been recovered. The perps are in the wind. The SQ4 popped up on Ebay for 18K and the sheriffs office has been in contact with Ebay but according to my friend they are very slow in responding to the sheriffs office. As of today they haven't gotten back to the sheriffs office and the detective says that in the past it has taken 2 months to get the information that they need to make an arrest.
You would think that Ebay would be very proactive in combatting this sort of thing. The other bikes that have been recovered so far were out on Craigslist so they are just as bad. All the recovered bike came as a result of friends noticing things on line or being contacted about a deal on some bikes.
I would suggest that everyone who has a bunch of bikes to take pictures of their bikes, with a shot of the vin number and put it on a CD and keep it updated with dates of purchase or sale.
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An update on this. The sheriffs detectives finally heard back from Ebay. Ebay says they need a warrant before releasing the information even though their website says nothing about needing that. Weeks have been wasted on catching the thief.
Why are they so determined to make this hard? I can and do understand not wanting to give out the info without a warrant, but to not put that info into their instructions to law enforcement section of their website is a little fishy.
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Perhaps they should suffer and lose a legal action to dispel these notions of protecting GD thieves. Allow the shoe to ride on the other foot and see if it provides proper incentive.
 
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Re; “but to not put that info into their instructions to law enforcement section of their website is a little fishy.”

I’m afraid they are bound with the Data Protection Act, just as the police are in not giving out information –hence the Warrant.


You could easily solve this, just turn up to look at the bikes with a plain clothed Policeman –with backup around the corner, if the bikes are not what has been stolen, then you have wasted a journey.
 
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Ebay's formerly ironclad policies have gone to hell. I made two purchases recently that were paid for but never delivered. Federal Express is the most half-assed delivery service on the planet and I will no longer accept deliveries from them. Rant over.

At the DMV recently, I was transferring an old bike title when I was informed our old, 6-digit VIN's are not a part of any database, so stealing and selling old bikes is easier than ever. Combine that with money-grubbing bastards at Ebay, who give not a shit as long as they get theirs, heightened home security is the order of the day.
 

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Texas DMV still lists all my old bikes...

(I believe they show up with however many leading zeros to fill in the block standard)
 

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An up date. 5 of the bikes were recovered in Colorado. The biggie is a 1950 Mk1 SQ4, it popped up on Ebay but with the issues with them it might be a while before it is recovered. 6 were recovered in Albuquerque.
The police had the perps in custody but originally charged them with receiving stolen goods and they are out of jail. Then they figured out they were the ones who stole the bikes and of course they are in the wind.
 
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Makes you wonder if they could catch and hold a gravy train with biscuit wheels.
 

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Albuquerque has this law or policy that if you are poor and can't afford bail they set you free. Just like NY the bad guys can't be held accountable for their actions and the rest of us have to pay the price.
So these thieves got out to offend again. True they were originally charged with receiving stolen goods before being charged with grand theft. I have little faith in our judicial system anymore.
 

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It's really amazing how it appears our judicial system seems more on protecting the perpetrators than the citizens...
 

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It's really amazing how it appears our judicial system seems more on protecting the perpetrators than the citizens...
Unless you are black.

Alabama just executed a man today that, while not totally innocent, was not fully guilty either.

Even the cops and victims family were arguing for clemency.
 

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The sheriffs detectives finally heard back from Ebay. Ebay says they need a warrant before releasing the information even though their website says nothing about needing that.
Seems to justify the nickname "Evilbay"
 

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Even with a warrant Ebay seems to be dragging their feet.
With the 5 bikes recovered in Colorado sitting in limbo because of juristional bs, sheriff to state police in NM, NM state police to Colorado state police and then down to the local sheriff. They have been recovered and are in a covered building just can't be returned until the BS is done. What a s*** show.
 

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Just got word that the detective had applied for a warrant or subpoena and the court hasn't acted on it yet! A WTF if ever there was one. He did get word he can go up to Dolores to pick up the bikes that had been recovered but NM has a "shelter in place order" so he can't get them back yet.
 

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A friend who is no longer on this world , was a very open minded fellow , he had many very unique ideas .... he once told me there will come a day when stealing will be commonplace , because society does not understand how serious theft is , he thought it base of all crime and so it should be punished severely like worst thing a person could do , he figured “losing a hand” was a fair punishment for a first offence and believed if so , all crime would diminish , as he used to say murder is the theft of a life .... not sayin I agree .... just sayin’
 

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I read that a man in Glasgow was sentenced to 5 years in prison for defending himself inside of his own home from a home invasion with a knife wheedling robber. He used a kitchen knife stab the perp 17 times. If he was high on drugs I could understand why it took so many times to subdue the robber. Yes the robber was killed and I'm sure his family would say he was a good boy, my a**.
 

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As of today, nothing from the judge in NM on the subpoena. He is now told that if he goes to Colorado to recover his bike there will be a 2 week quarantine. Good thing he isn't
 
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I read that a man in Glasgow was sentenced to 5 years in prison for defending himself inside of his own home from a home invasion with a knife wheedling robber. He used a kitchen knife stab the perp 17 times. If he was high on drugs I could understand why it took so many times to subdue the robber. Yes the robber was killed and I'm sure his family would say he was a good boy, my a**.
Most of the stabs were to the back in this case, in the UK you are allowed to defend yourself proportionately, that means if you lose your temper and lash out then you are liable for the result. That means if the thief dies on or near your property then you will be arrested and held until they work out if you acted proportionately. Trouble is when in a life threatening situation a high proportion of people do lose their temper and go further than is needed to defend themselves. So why should you be punished for a natural reaction in a situation not of your cause. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but not in this instance.
 

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