Donald Trump? Stranger thing have happened in the USA..

Donald Trump is the natural extension of Ayn Rand's 'cult of the individual'. For America, he is the moment of truth.
 
he's the only one that speaks directly to or about the reality of the 20 trillion dollar dept???

can't afford STUFF, policing the world & paying for it, at the same, people with dough who benefit don't pay up????

too much money going out one way,

i also don't buy the globalization bs is good for you, means for one factories gone & good jobs with them
 
As far as I'm concerned, if Trump refuses to accept the outcome of the election, he should be stripped of his US citizenship, have all his assets frozen and be deported to Chad or Nigeria. I hope the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and all the EU countires would also freeze his assets and deny him entry. Stupid SOB!!
 
frankdamp said:
As far as I'm concerned, if Trump refuses to accept the outcome of the election, he should be stripped of his US citizenship, have all his assets frozen and be deported to Chad or Nigeria. I hope the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and all the EU countires would also freeze his assets and deny him entry. Stupid SOB!!
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He was on the verge of bankruptcy when some big bankers had to decide to prop him up or let him fail. They decided he was too big to fail (nearly 1 billion in losses) and shored up his close-to-bellyup ventures in hotels, casinos and golf courses. When the economy started to recover from the big bankers' bs of making money without producing anything, Trump's name became golden (due to his backers, not his business acumen, which was nil) and he became a billionaire all over again selling his name to other financiers ventures.

When he loses this election by a landslide, his name and reputation won't be worth a puddle of warm spit, so he'll probably run his mouth until someone pays him to STFU.
 
When Tony Abbott stood for election as leader of the Liberal Party, I did not think he would be elected and become Prime Minister of Australia. Obviously I think differently from most other Australians. I think Michael Moore is correct - Trump will get up.
 
I do not believe there are enough people in the USA stupid enough to allow Trump into the WH.

I do appreciate how he has galvanised opinion of some social sectors. And beneath the OTT rhetoric, on some of the issues, he does have a point or two.

But there is no way the man is the right choice to be leader of the biggest economy and most powerful nation on earth. Period.

And to be very honest, I kinda think the having Clinton, Merkel and May working together might not be a bad thing. Women approach things differently to men, less chest bearing etc. maybe it will be for the best?
 
When you talk about trillions of dollars of debt, Americans have never been afraid of big numbers. However Trump might be a life and death issue. I suggest the fundamental issue is neoliberal globalism in the form of the free market economy. I tend to care about people in third world countries, however when global charity causes major social disruption in our domestic economy, I start to think differently. Perhaps there needs to be a prescribed balance between protectionism and the free market ? For Australia, the only way we can justify our overheads - our wages and well-educated workforce and our domestic prices, is to move upmarket in the sense of QUALITY. The Germans don't have our problems.
 
The GATT meetings of the 1970s were directed at preventing quality issues from becoming barriers to trade. However QUALITY is the only basis on which our established economies can compete. In a consumption-based economy, wealth is created by adding value to a product or service. So our economic situation comes down to a question about what we value. Trump is not an answer.
 
The thought crossed my mind ;

" BART SIMPSON FOR PRESIDENT " .

Then I realised both of your noble candadates :( have more in common with Bart Simpson ( almost personify male & female versions :wink: )

than Abraham Lincoln or George Washington .

though if you are a descendant of the Original Inhabitants , Bart Simpson would likely be a better bet than any of the above . :? .
 
Someone made the comment that politics will never be the same after Trump. So perhaps he IS a force for good ? If he gets elected, it will probably end in a punch-up and even that would clear the air.
 
acotrel said:
When you talk about trillions of dollars of debt, Americans have never been afraid of big numbers. However Trump might be a life and death issue. I suggest the fundamental issue is neoliberal globalism in the form of the free market economy. I tend to care about people in third world countries, however when global charity causes major social disruption in our domestic economy, I start to think differently. Perhaps there needs to be a prescribed balance between protectionism and the free market ? For Australia, the only way we can justify our overheads - our wages and well-educated workforce and our domestic prices, is to move upmarket in the sense of QUALITY. The Germans don't have our problems.
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dunno what you mean by the highlighted above, 20 trillion tells it all for high end folks,

iow, nothing less than a bubble
 
My concern is that tRump will do something that gets him impeached, then we get President Pence. He scares me a lot more than "the Donald".
 
Bernhard said:
Well, stranger things have happened; Donald Trump was Named Time's 2016 Person of the Year
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The question is - will they still be saying that in 4 or 8 years time ?
Seems a bit premature when he hasn't actually done anything as Prez yet.... !?

Or is this more a triumph of style over substance
 
Rohan said:
Bernhard said:
Well, stranger things have happened; Donald Trump was Named Time's 2016 Person of the Year
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The question is - will they still be saying that in 4 or 8 years time ?
Seems a bit premature when he hasn't actually done anything as Prez yet.... !?

Or is this more a triumph of style over substance
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As it was explained to me, TM 'Person of the Year' does not mean they were 'good person of the year' or 'bad person' either. Its about their fame and impact on the world stage. Trump has dominated news in probably every country for most of a year. I think that's what its based on.
 
In Australia at present, there is a large gambling problem which I suggest is based on HOPE. I believe Donald Trump was elected because he told the workers of America what he thought they wanted to hear - he offered HOPE. It works every time. In Australia our own Tony Abbott did it to get himself elected. On the eve of the 2013 election he told a stream of about 6 direct lies about 'no cut' to anything. He was never held to account for any of them.
 
Fast Eddie said:
Rohan said:
Bernhard said:
Well, stranger things have happened; Donald Trump was Named Time's 2016 Person of the Year
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The question is - will they still be saying that in 4 or 8 years time ?
Seems a bit premature when he hasn't actually done anything as Prez yet.... !?

Or is this more a triumph of style over substance
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As it was explained to me, TM 'Person of the Year' does not mean they were 'good person of the year' or 'bad person' either. Its about their fame and impact on the world stage. Trump has dominated news in probably every country for most of a year. I think that's what its based on.
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This is probably the reason why I never buy the magazine, they have nothing else better to write about :?:
 
When the Global Financial Crisis happened, it brought a paradigm shift. Trump is just part of that. History does not have to repeat itself because our future is in our own hands.
 
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