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luckily our house came with a cold storage room (6.5'w X 6.5'd X 8'h) I put shelves in on all 3 sides and put 6" of Styrofoam in ceiling with a vent pipe down to just above floor , another vent pipe just through ceiling , then 2" styrofoam on back side of solid wood door .... we grow a 50' X 60' garden , mostly root crops so we usually have that kinda stuff until Christmas at this point just potatoes,carrots and parsnip left,and some sauced tomatoes in freezer ... the folks buying more than they needed were shut down early on here so mostly anything needed is available "so far" , things may change ... beer store still open and today visited wine store and started 60 bottles for wife .... Gov. say no larger that 5 people in a group period , all parks , beaches a no go .... told to stay home unless urgent business , $1000 per person for failing to abide by the new normal .... Good Luck ,to all !!!!
 
How long before $'s are useless and aren't worth the paper they're printed on though? If they go to printing money they can't back.... Well? Things do not look well at all even if you keep your health through this, but that's another story.
 
How long before $'s are useless and aren't worth the paper they're printed on though? If they go to printing money they can't back.... Well? Things do not look well at all even if you keep your health through this, but that's another story.
One storm at a time..
 
How long before $'s are useless and aren't worth the paper they're printed on though? If they go to printing money they can't back.... Well? Things do not look well at all even if you keep your health through this, but that's another story.


If you have assets their prices when you buy or sell can rise and fall with the dollar, but their intrinsic value probably does not change much. Money is only a short term measure of expended effort. It is used to promote efficiency.
If you did the statistics right across the whole of industry, about the frequency of making 'correct' decisions. You would find it to be about 50%. The main thing a leader must do is actually make a decision when it is needed. It doesn't matter much if the decision is good or bad, because the law of unintended consequences prevails - 'everything happens for the best'. Personally however, I tend to manage the risk.
 
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Adolph Hitler devalued the German Mark on a huge scale, by spending massively on development. Then did the usual capitalist answer - war. Coronavirus is like a war. When it happens, it does not matter how much is spent. Sometimes there are reparations, but I don't know why the winners bother - the same thing repeats.

If you think about it - how much money was all the money in the world in the first year when the Romans invented it, and what could it buy ? What it could buy, is probably relatively the same as all the money in the world at the current time.
With money, you cannot afford to stand still.

'There is no good or bad in the world except thinking makes it so' ?
 
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States shutting down. Auto manufactures shutting down. Airplane manufactures shutting down. Airlines shutting down. Professional sports seasons wiped out. 2020 Olympics cancelled. Yet the moron-in-chief (Trump) is saying we will soon (2 weeks) return to normal.

Trump is arguably more dangerous than the CORONAVIRUS itself.
 
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Yes , we saw news clip on late last night , the POTUS said clearly that the virus is almost over and folks would be going back to work next week , was time to get back to business ..... kinda scary message , compared to the compared to the previous clip of our PM saying smarten up and batten down the hatches , going to be a long haul ... who is correct ????
 
FYI: China has only this week had no new deaths for a few days straight. Thats just over 3 months out from beginnings of their major crackdown. And they are still under pretty hard social and economic restrictions.

Trump is once again making up stuff to smooth out his economy woes. It will be just another forgotten claim, like the 15 cases going down to zero in a few days.

Interesting that Fauci was conspicuously absent from Mr.T's 2 hour presser/rally session yesterday. Must've been feeling the heat after his CNN confession about not being able to push Trump away from the mic.
 
FYI: China has only this week had no new deaths for a few days straight. Thats just over 3 months out from beginnings of their major crackdown. And they are still under pretty hard social and economic restrictions.

Trump is once again making up stuff to smooth out his economy woes. It will be just another forgotten claim, like the 15 cases going down to zero in a few days.

Interesting that Fauci was conspicuously absent from Mr.T's 2 hour presser/rally session yesterday. Must've been feeling the heat after his CNN confession about not being able to push Trump away from the mic.

There are lies, bloody lies and statistics.
 
FYI: China has only this week had no new deaths for a few days straight. Thats just over 3 months out from beginnings of their major crackdown. And they are still under pretty hard social and economic restrictions.

Trump is once again making up stuff to smooth out his economy woes. It will be just another forgotten claim, like the 15 cases going down to zero in a few days.

Interesting that Fauci was conspicuously absent from Mr.T's 2 hour presser/rally session yesterday. Must've been feeling the heat after his CNN confession about not being able to push Trump away from the mic.
I do wonder if the 3 months thing with China can be used as a benchmark
I may be completely wrong/ignorant about this but I'd assumed Chinese people don't shake hands and preferred to bow?
I didn't think they greeted each other with hugs ect like people in the west do?
Wouldn't this make a huge difference to how quickly the virus would spread?
 
I do wonder if the 3 months thing with China can be used as a benchmark
I may be completely wrong/ignorant about this but I'd assumed Chinese people don't shake hands and preferred to bow?
I didn't think they greeted each other with hugs ect like people in the west do?
Wouldn't this make a huge difference to how quickly the virus would spread?

Possibly in Korea and Japan. Mainland China is a cesspool.
 
In China it is common for extended family to live in the same dwelling. So you've got elderly in close contact with the young in a household, sometimes even small apartments, basically overcrowded. There is also the basic pop density difference. Wuhan is what, 11 million or so? That's more than any Canadian urban area in a relatively small area.

I saw an Australian(?) made documentary running on CBC the other day, showing the very recent situation in Wuhan...most of footage was from people's cell phone cameras, smuggled out, of how life in the city was being impacted etc. Some of the shocking scenes were the bodies piling up in the hospital hallways, medical personal literally freaking out mentally, screaming on the phone to get someone to come and help, basically collapsing in total defeat. Then scenes of officials standing by as workers welded doors to apartment complexes shut to keep people contained inside. Officials going door to door to take everyone's temps and if a fever was found, that person was taken away, usually forcibly, kicking and screaming, to an isolation facility.
 
I would not use anything from a communist government as a benchmark. They are like the Catholic church - they will lie in their teeth to keep up appearances. Workplace health, safety and environment is a human rights issue. The virus came out of the wet markets of Wuhan province and is probably derived from SARS, or is a cross-over from animals in the same market as food. In Australia, we have very strong laws about having animals near food. The major reason many of our businesses go offshore in cheap labour and slack legislation in other countries.
 
The only way, at the present time, to stop COVID 19 is to isolate those infected from those who are not. Barring that, the disease will continue to replicate at an exponential rate. Since the testing is yet to become available, the numbers of infected and the dead continue to increase.
 
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Churchill:

(1) Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities.

We have some good leaders in the United States, unfortunately Trump is not one of them.
 
Never has the old aphorism, “An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure”, more apt.
 
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