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For Neanderthals and followers of Joe Lucas . A tirade on the CORRECT ( contribute as you consider ) manner of getting the ponts assembly to work right .
New points ( contact Breakers ) little Nylon heeled thingo's . Lubricateing .
We pull the silly things of the post , if theyre not rivited , glare at it all.See its clean . No Burrs .Lubricate.
To attempt to save repeating myself, a bit like GLUEING . IF both Surfaces have been FULLY COATED , theres no Dry Spots .
So, we do this . Then blow, use a tissue ( paper napkin better ), lint free cloth TO REMOVE EXCESS .Without entirely DRYING the bas er thing .
The Points Cam requires the same approach . i.e. the ENTIRE SURFACE . cleaned so just residue remaining.No dry spots .
Then , the little HEEL on the point , wipe grease across & into contact suface ( Not the points . Idio er um . )
THIS gets it so it will Lube and Surface Harden , on run in . We Hope .We leace a slighjt smear upsteam. to feed under . say 1/2 mm square. 20 though even. A iota or two, maybe three .
Then . the swine will settle in nicely, maybe only close a few thou and leave just a flashing down the far edge. Maybe.This we remove.Almost.
so it doesnt break of and get in the points .
Speaking of which .
The faces should Mate DEAD SQUARE . if they dont , we see that they do. Twisting with long nose plyers or whatever necessary.
A cigarette paper ( rice Paper ) is fairly usefull for checking this ( a 1/4 in. strip of it ) and for checking opening / closeing point . And insulateing
if you break it off in there .
a oil stone & dressing ' on the bench ' is better than farting round with a points file . unless its a nice good expensive one . Not some cheap nail file trash .
This way YOU GET IT SQUARE . spot on . Nothing less ( will do )
Set correct, ignition on , C'shaft at the timeing mark . Cover Off. a ( wee ) spanner , or even the fingertips , bringing the Auto Advance To The Stop , should get the nice fat ' Crack ' ( electric ) as it fires.On The STOP. NOT Before . or anywhere else . For those running 31 Deg , we can see this is relevant . So its NOT more. At All .
Then we have the ADVANCE UNIT . Id recomend Ea 10.000 miles REMOVEING IT .
Clean by dumping in a can of petrol or whatever . Disasemble . Lint Free Cloth .
Clear out the bore of the points cam, and the shaft . Really fancy blokes could polish till it shines .No burrs or daggs tolerated . or forign matter
Really , if theres more than a few thou ( TWO to you ) the blankety shafts looose , or the clearance is wrong . OR NOT RIGHT .
The wobble will effect contact breaker gap. This we will not accept . so somethinglll have to be done.Probly rip some bits out of a old Lucas Distributor .
For a Twin Cylinder .
SO , if its all nice fitting . The Lube, probly litium stuff , Goes ALL OVER the mateing surfaces . Though just a iota or three is LEFT , to get all over things. Which is as much as anything why we pull it down & wash it every 10.000 minimum. Some people dont like dust & water getting in there .
The Points cam watsit or shaft , has a relief. In the middle .Between the mateing surfaces .THIS is where we leave a bit of grease.To feed the thing.& work its way out and get on other bits. So not a awfull lot.
One can see bushing ( Alumn Bronze ) O ringing and further uprates and blueprinting beyond Lucas's knock em out & bash em up Cost Related ( TIME / $ )
could lead us to have a masterpiece of a ignition advance mechanism . If we had the time & inclination.
FURTHER
The Little Advance Springs .
The SOFTER one should sit with Zero 1000 and or 2000 gaps checked again . Essentially this proceedure should get the heel wear to sfa and hold the setting nicely . Setting Closeing advances spark.Resetting to correct ( .015 or .016 One or the other ) gets the correct Dwell & OPENING POINT for the Contact Breaker : SPARK .
So its the olde cleanliness is next to godliness bit again . Zen of the points. if its worth doing its worth doing well .
Keep the dust & filth out.
A mereist smear of sealant on the Alloy Points cover , and a breather tube from the vent to the air box , and we'll be setting new parameters in particularity .
IF it pits one side of the contact breaker , its usually a mismatch of the condensor / capacitor to the coil . A Electronically Matched Coil / Condensor the spark , L.T. will be pretty much neutral ionically and the POINTS WERA MINIMAL , from electric causes .
So theres no excuses left. Apart from the coils.
See ' Cycle ' Mags great Coil Test from the 70s , Joe Lucas came in a definate last place . particularly the six volt . One neede a Lucas SPORTS Coil , preferably under 10 years old , to get the 1/2 in blue / yellow 11.000 Deg. SPARK pretty much essential for impressing the neigbours with first kick starts and no
missfireing / uneven running , at all .In fact near a standard set by a good Magneto .
Bendix points referance ( for 73 Triumph ) = contact set only : Part No CD 481 .= Bendix Contact Set ( Complete with backing plate ) part no. CD 450. this is TRIUMPH No's ONLY, but should serve as a guide .
http://www.billymegawatt.com/uploads/6/ ... racing.pdf = source .
New points ( contact Breakers ) little Nylon heeled thingo's . Lubricateing .
We pull the silly things of the post , if theyre not rivited , glare at it all.See its clean . No Burrs .Lubricate.
To attempt to save repeating myself, a bit like GLUEING . IF both Surfaces have been FULLY COATED , theres no Dry Spots .
So, we do this . Then blow, use a tissue ( paper napkin better ), lint free cloth TO REMOVE EXCESS .Without entirely DRYING the bas er thing .
The Points Cam requires the same approach . i.e. the ENTIRE SURFACE . cleaned so just residue remaining.No dry spots .
Then , the little HEEL on the point , wipe grease across & into contact suface ( Not the points . Idio er um . )
THIS gets it so it will Lube and Surface Harden , on run in . We Hope .We leace a slighjt smear upsteam. to feed under . say 1/2 mm square. 20 though even. A iota or two, maybe three .
Then . the swine will settle in nicely, maybe only close a few thou and leave just a flashing down the far edge. Maybe.This we remove.Almost.
so it doesnt break of and get in the points .
Speaking of which .
The faces should Mate DEAD SQUARE . if they dont , we see that they do. Twisting with long nose plyers or whatever necessary.
A cigarette paper ( rice Paper ) is fairly usefull for checking this ( a 1/4 in. strip of it ) and for checking opening / closeing point . And insulateing
if you break it off in there .
a oil stone & dressing ' on the bench ' is better than farting round with a points file . unless its a nice good expensive one . Not some cheap nail file trash .
This way YOU GET IT SQUARE . spot on . Nothing less ( will do )
Set correct, ignition on , C'shaft at the timeing mark . Cover Off. a ( wee ) spanner , or even the fingertips , bringing the Auto Advance To The Stop , should get the nice fat ' Crack ' ( electric ) as it fires.On The STOP. NOT Before . or anywhere else . For those running 31 Deg , we can see this is relevant . So its NOT more. At All .
Then we have the ADVANCE UNIT . Id recomend Ea 10.000 miles REMOVEING IT .
Clean by dumping in a can of petrol or whatever . Disasemble . Lint Free Cloth .
Clear out the bore of the points cam, and the shaft . Really fancy blokes could polish till it shines .No burrs or daggs tolerated . or forign matter
Really , if theres more than a few thou ( TWO to you ) the blankety shafts looose , or the clearance is wrong . OR NOT RIGHT .
The wobble will effect contact breaker gap. This we will not accept . so somethinglll have to be done.Probly rip some bits out of a old Lucas Distributor .
For a Twin Cylinder .
SO , if its all nice fitting . The Lube, probly litium stuff , Goes ALL OVER the mateing surfaces . Though just a iota or three is LEFT , to get all over things. Which is as much as anything why we pull it down & wash it every 10.000 minimum. Some people dont like dust & water getting in there .
The Points cam watsit or shaft , has a relief. In the middle .Between the mateing surfaces .THIS is where we leave a bit of grease.To feed the thing.& work its way out and get on other bits. So not a awfull lot.
One can see bushing ( Alumn Bronze ) O ringing and further uprates and blueprinting beyond Lucas's knock em out & bash em up Cost Related ( TIME / $ )
could lead us to have a masterpiece of a ignition advance mechanism . If we had the time & inclination.
FURTHER
The Little Advance Springs .
The SOFTER one should sit with Zero 1000 and or 2000 gaps checked again . Essentially this proceedure should get the heel wear to sfa and hold the setting nicely . Setting Closeing advances spark.Resetting to correct ( .015 or .016 One or the other ) gets the correct Dwell & OPENING POINT for the Contact Breaker : SPARK .
So its the olde cleanliness is next to godliness bit again . Zen of the points. if its worth doing its worth doing well .
Keep the dust & filth out.
A mereist smear of sealant on the Alloy Points cover , and a breather tube from the vent to the air box , and we'll be setting new parameters in particularity .
IF it pits one side of the contact breaker , its usually a mismatch of the condensor / capacitor to the coil . A Electronically Matched Coil / Condensor the spark , L.T. will be pretty much neutral ionically and the POINTS WERA MINIMAL , from electric causes .
So theres no excuses left. Apart from the coils.
See ' Cycle ' Mags great Coil Test from the 70s , Joe Lucas came in a definate last place . particularly the six volt . One neede a Lucas SPORTS Coil , preferably under 10 years old , to get the 1/2 in blue / yellow 11.000 Deg. SPARK pretty much essential for impressing the neigbours with first kick starts and no
missfireing / uneven running , at all .In fact near a standard set by a good Magneto .
Bendix points referance ( for 73 Triumph ) = contact set only : Part No CD 481 .= Bendix Contact Set ( Complete with backing plate ) part no. CD 450. this is TRIUMPH No's ONLY, but should serve as a guide .
http://www.billymegawatt.com/uploads/6/ ... racing.pdf = source .