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Hehe, Non Isolastic Tri-Lined Supermotards are under powered fat tired corner cripples that mostly use brake to slide rear around so aren't really even leaving the mere second mode-phase of handling, leaning counter steering. If a bike is sliding wide or off tangent of a turn, its still in phase 2 handling and relieving loads not piling em up to get on out of there. Its fun, I flat track as a lark just to get to pavement and not go so fast I have no reserves for the instant hazards. But can't fool me its only good for saving a real turn or just showing off relaxing. Next phase beyond what you describe requires harsh power to kick rear out while low side resisted by straight steering. A neutral handling bike can take the chassis twist up in the transition of removing the tire conflicts that limits other bikes to phase 2 ho hums. In phase 3 handling pilot has choice to accelerate the increase in radius of a turn or to stay in non-crossed up slide at same lean angle and drift out at tangent till desiring to accelerate into a sharply decreasing radius thrill ending. That means there ain't hardly a turn ya have to slow up for in public but it can get ya into other trouble of no time to change direction no matter how sharp bike can turn, - before already at far edge of road. Then phase 4 suddenly needed to carry on to avoid human limits and reactions - I have only tasted phase 5 on THE Gravel, need 3x more rear power to explore on hard track. Oh My Yes Turns are for Fun!

<blockquote data-quote="Hobot" data-source="post: 75218" data-attributes="member: 345"><p>Hehe, Non Isolastic Tri-Lined Supermotards are under powered fat tired&nbsp; corner cripples that mostly use brake to slide rear around so aren&#039;t really even leaving the mere second mode-phase of handling, leaning counter steering. If a bike is sliding wide or off tangent of a turn, its still in phase 2 handling and relieving loads not piling em up to get on out of there.&nbsp; Its fun, I flat track as a lark just to get to pavement and not go so fast I have no reserves for the instant hazards. But can&#039;t fool me its only good for saving a real turn or just showing off relaxing.&nbsp; Next phase beyond what you describe requires harsh power to kick rear out while low side resisted by straight steering. A neutral handling bike can take the chassis twist up in the transition of removing the tire conflicts that limits other bikes to phase 2 ho hums. In phase 3 handling pilot has choice to accelerate the increase in radius of a turn or to stay in non-crossed up slide at same lean angle and drift out at tangent till desiring to accelerate into a sharply decreasing radius thrill ending.&nbsp; That means there ain&#039;t hardly a turn ya have to slow up for in public but it can get ya into other trouble of no time to change direction no matter how sharp bike can turn, - before already at far edge of road.&nbsp; Then phase 4 suddenly needed to carry on to avoid human limits and reactions - I have only tasted phase 5 on THE Gravel, need 3x more rear power to explore on hard track.&nbsp; Oh My Yes&nbsp; Turns are for Fun!</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Hobot, post: 75218, member: 345"] Hehe, Non Isolastic Tri-Lined Supermotards are under powered fat tired corner cripples that mostly use brake to slide rear around so aren't really even leaving the mere second mode-phase of handling, leaning counter steering. If a bike is sliding wide or off tangent of a turn, its still in phase 2 handling and relieving loads not piling em up to get on out of there. Its fun, I flat track as a lark just to get to pavement and not go so fast I have no reserves for the instant hazards. But can't fool me its only good for saving a real turn or just showing off relaxing. Next phase beyond what you describe requires harsh power to kick rear out while low side resisted by straight steering. A neutral handling bike can take the chassis twist up in the transition of removing the tire conflicts that limits other bikes to phase 2 ho hums. In phase 3 handling pilot has choice to accelerate the increase in radius of a turn or to stay in non-crossed up slide at same lean angle and drift out at tangent till desiring to accelerate into a sharply decreasing radius thrill ending. That means there ain't hardly a turn ya have to slow up for in public but it can get ya into other trouble of no time to change direction no matter how sharp bike can turn, - before already at far edge of road. Then phase 4 suddenly needed to carry on to avoid human limits and reactions - I have only tasted phase 5 on THE Gravel, need 3x more rear power to explore on hard track. Oh My Yes Turns are for Fun! [/QUOTE]

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