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Got the rear wheel that's been around the world back on. Took some time to get to know my Norton again. God I missed 'er! Only took 2 attempts to start 'er up on 12 week old gasoline. Once I got 'er down to Route 100 I gave 'er a thrashing she'll not soon forget! Brought 'er back to life, ya might say.

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So the rear wheel seems alright now as long as that one slip I felt was due to under-inflation. I still cannot pin point the one event that led to the wheel bearing blowing out. The only thing I know is that it was not my fault. That's a relief. :roll:

More on the cause later.
 
That's great news. As Wyatt Earp said in Tombstone....."Skin that smokewagon, boy". Idunno, sounded cool at the time. Enjoy your riding. Still waiting for the Fups to get my bike to me. I may just go pick it up and cut my loss. Ordered me a headlight that they lost. Me: "and the spacers, right?" "Them: I didn't know it needed spacers" Me: I told you the spacers were in the box when I dropped it off and every week since for the past four months"...........sigh :roll:
 
:x You've convinced me never to use them!

Meanwhile I am having start up issues with mine. :( I guess I need to look at the starter relay and maybe the solenoid contacts.
 
contours said:
:x You've convinced me never to use them!

Meanwhile I am having start up issues with mine. :( I guess I need to look at the starter relay and maybe the solenoid contacts.
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Check also the head temp sensor at the back of cylinders, but be careful... It can easily be damaged. If it's loose a bit when you try to turn without force, it might be damaged and cause the starting issues.
Raphi
 
Raphi said:
Check also the head temp sensor at the back of cylinders, but be careful... It can easily be damaged. If it's loose a bit when you try to turn without force, it might be damaged and cause the starting issues.
Raphi
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Yes, thanks for reminding me, Raphi. Just this week I inquired about ordering the Bosch set of sensors Richard recommends from my local garage. They have a lot of expertise with European cars.
 
contours said:
:x You've convinced me never to use them!

Meanwhile I am having start up issues with mine. :( I guess I need to look at the starter relay and maybe the solenoid contacts.
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Man. I'm sorry you're having more issues. Hopefully they will be easily sorted. You running Motads with map #91?
 
Britfan60 said:
Man. I'm sorry you're having more issues. Hopefully they will be easily sorted. You running Motads with map #91?
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As is typical with this bike, this morning was cool and moist yet the thing fired right up! :shock: Rode to work without issue. In fact it ran like a clock and shifted like butter. I did inflate the tires to the proper pressure and re-adjusted the chain, but nothing else. Why are these bikes so fussy?! :?
 
contours said:
Britfan60 said:
Man. I'm sorry you're having more issues. Hopefully they will be easily sorted. You running Motads with map #91?
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As is typical with this bike, this morning was cool and moist yet the thing fired right up! :shock: Rode to work without issue. In fact it ran like a clock and shifted like butter. I did inflate the tires to the proper pressure and re-adjusted the chain, but nothing else. Why are these bikes so fussy?! :?
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Its been a few months. Sediment in the fuel? Or ya just had to wake the bitch up. Did you install the Bosch coils yet? I forgot if you mentioned that or not.
 
Britfan60 said:
Its been a few months. Sediment in the fuel? Or ya just had to wake the bitch up. Did you install the Bosch coils yet? I forgot if you mentioned that or not.
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Yes, I think the fuel was the issue. I have the Bosch coil and racing wires installed. I have the Iridium plugs as well, but decided to get my money's worth out of the originals for a while. My only complaint is a common one - she bogs down if you let 'er hang below 4K for too long. Need a better map. :roll:
 
richard-7 said:
Ive been happy with 077-0116
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That's got me perplexed. Although I don't have Motads, I have SBN opens with the cecatted "X pipe" 77 caused mine to rev at 2400 rpm when hot and difficult restarts when hot only. 91 has been near perfect. Even after a service once the reinstalled 77 and I knew right away. Went right back to have that corrected. Wonder if the difference in the decatted pipes make a difference. Not saying 77 is not good. Hell....if it works well for Richard7, its got to be good. If you have the same set up as Richard, I would go with that.
 
richard-7 said:
Ive been happy with 077-0116
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I am fairly satisfied wirh 091-0116 with the exception of having to check the tachometer too often. It's a certainty if the needle falls below 4K for more than 30 seconds the engine is going to cut out and reluctantly climb back up to 4K if I'm not careful about it. If the guys who are using the Power Commander are not having this issue then I guess I will look into getting one of those. But there's really no urgency about it. I would be more disappointed if the cold start issues were a regular thing.

I hope to grab those two Bosch sensors you recommended in the next day or so. My local European auto mechanic placed an order for me after I told him to not try and save me money by using Amazon.COM :lol: .
 
Lol.

contours said:
richard-7 said:
Ive been happy with 077-0116
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I am fairly satisfied wirh 091-0116 with the exception of having to check the tachometer too often. It's a certainty if the needle falls below 4K for more than 30 seconds the engine is going to cut out and reluctantly climb back up to 4K if I'm not careful about it. If the guys who are using the Power Commander are not having this issue then I guess I will look into getting one of those. But there's really no urgency about it. I would be more disappointed if the cold start issues were a regular thing.

I hope to grab those two Bosch sensors you recommended in the next day or so. My local European auto mechanic placed an order for me after I told him to not try and save me money by using Amazon.COM :lol: .
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A couple more rides this weekend leads me to believe (1) the oldish fuel sitting in my tank is not the cause of my starting problems and (2) the wheels are definitely out of alignment. I am hoping when I get around to replacing the head temp. sensor and cam position sensor the start up issues will go away. The alignment issue is a difficult one because the chain adjusters are horribly inadequate, in my opinion. I have used a metric ruler a couple of times. I tried backing the screws out as far as they could go while the wheel was removed just to set them evenly. Turning them an equal number of turns did not work to correct the alignment.

I need to try something different before I go riding again. Hitting large dips and/or bumps in the road sends the frame into a noticeable wiggle that can be very unsettling if I'm not anticipating it. :shock:
 
Can I ask:

- does the bike 'fight' turning one way more than other ie to the right at medium speeds?
- is your rear suspension setup correct for you?

I ask because had a little shimmy turning right and so asked to get it straight lined (string method). Also the shocks had to be setup for my weight.
 
contours said:
Hitting large dips and/or bumps in the road sends the frame into a noticeable wiggle that can be very unsettling if I'm not anticipating it. :shock:
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Front end wobble, or rear end wiggle? Though I have no experience (yet, as my 961 is to arrive this week) with the stock 961 suspension, an unsettling response to hitting a large dip sounds like a possible pre-tank slapping issue with front forks. Are the front forks adjustable for compression / rebound? Again, I could be way off on this suggestion, but with no steering damper, has anyone experienced tank-slapper like issues? Are there aftermarket brackets available for steering dampers?
 
GKRyder said:
Can I ask:

- does the bike 'fight' turning one way more than other ie to the right at medium speeds?
- is your rear suspension setup correct for you?

I ask because had a little shimmy turning right and so asked to get it straight lined (string method). Also the shocks had to be setup for my weight.
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There is a little bit of resistance heading into a turn in both directions. Prior to the rear wheel bearing incident I had no complaints about the suspension. It seemed correct for my weight right from the factory. I am considering getting an alignment done by someone I trust if I can't get it right using the chain adjusters.
 
italia said:
contours said:
Hitting large dips and/or bumps in the road sends the frame into a noticeable wiggle that can be very unsettling if I'm not anticipating it. :shock:
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Front end wobble, or rear end wiggle? Though I have no experience (yet, as my 961 is to arrive this week) with the stock 961 suspension, an unsettling response to hitting a large dip sounds like a possible pre-tank slapping issue with front forks. Are the front forks adjustable for compression / rebound? Again, I could be way off on this suggestion, but with no steering damper, has anyone experienced tank-slapper like issues? Are there aftermarket brackets available for steering dampers?
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Its a very solid bike handling and ride wise. Those Ohlins are fantastic and adjustable. Its not the most nimble bike in the world. A little top heavy compared to most race bikes but still fairly easy to manage. Slight effort required going into your lean, comes out of it beautifully......in my opinion.
 
italia said:
contours said:
Hitting large dips and/or bumps in the road sends the frame into a noticeable wiggle that can be very unsettling if I'm not anticipating it. :shock:
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Front end wobble, or rear end wiggle? Though I have no experience (yet, as my 961 is to arrive this week) with the stock 961 suspension, an unsettling response to hitting a large dip sounds like a possible pre-tank slapping issue with front forks. Are the front forks adjustable for compression / rebound? Again, I could be way off on this suggestion, but with no steering damper, has anyone experienced tank-slapper like issues? Are there aftermarket brackets available for steering dampers?
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Italia, if you have not been following along Contours has had problems with a wheel bearing failure on the BST carbon fiber wheels and now has alignment issues . The 961 is rock steady and is one of the last bikes you would ever put a steering damper on!
 
Contours, remove your chain guard and try sighting along the chain from the back, if you are really off a large amount you will see it!
 
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