Are Commando 750 & 850 Crankshafts The same? & Keyway Repair

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The 750 and 850 crankshafts share the same part number so I am thinking they are interchangeable. Is that correct? Do I need to worry about the balance factor?

My 850 crankshaft has a damaged rotor key way. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to repair this.

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The 750 and 850 crankshafts share the same part number


The 750 crank assemblies were 06-0571 and 06-3106 (late).
850 was 06-4254 (not Mk3 which isn't interchangeable).


so I am thinking they are interchangeable. Is that correct? Do I need to worry about the balance factor?

AN currently offers the same crank for both 750 and 850 as it requires balancing to suit.

https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/sho...-assembly-06-0571-06-4254-requires-balancing-
750/850 CRANKSHAFT ASSEMBLY (06.0571, 06.4254) (REQUIRES BALANCING)
 
I should have mentioned that I have a good 750 crank from a combat engine that I would like to use if I can’t get the keyway on the 850 fixed.

The 850 crank is not from a mk3
 
Any competent engineering workshop should be able to cut another keyway exactly opposite, you'll have to use the rotor's other timing mark.

Dave
 
The crank cheeks are the same, not the flywheel. Combat drive side crankshaft cheeks are notorious for being cracked, have it magnafluxed.

Mike B
 
Somewhere hidden in the archives here is a thorough discussion of balance factors. If I can find the thread I will post it here, but a lot of the discussion was around moving to lighter pistons. Essentially 850 pistons on a 750 crank would be moving the other direction.

As for the keyway. How much damage is there? I have done a redneck repair (not on my Norton crank, it was a Perkins for a timing gear) with my Dremel tool and widened the slot from 1/8 to 3/16 in both the crank and gear and drove away afterward. If you use the undamaged side as an index you can get it pretty spot on. The 180-degree out repair as mentioned above is a good solution, but widening the slot is cheaper and can be done without tearing down the bike. FYI, I used the fiber reinforced cutting wheel and not a grinding disc to cut the crank, and a file and lots of patience on the gear. Admittedly, this repair was done out of desperation to get a boat home from a remote location and was not done without trepidation. But it turned out clean and it worked well. So there ya go.

Of course if you tear the bike down, you could use the 750 cheek on the 850 flywheel.

Russ
 
Rich, I was wondering about that. I didn’t know if the were machined and balanced as a set, like using unmatched engine cases.

Plan A is to get the keyway fixed.
 
I think the 850 crank cheeks used a different forging, which had a couple of additional 'spot-face' blobs adjacent to the journals - on the ones I've had, at least.
Machined dimensions the same AFAIK, but could affect the balance?
 
Hi Arch just get the keyway repaired. Have it widened on both sides till neat then get them to make 2 stepped keys for you. Did this on my Triumph clutch. Dave Degans used to cut 2 keys ways at angles on the Triumph clutch as its a weak point on a full blown racer. (Eddie)

Chris
 
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