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There are 75 countries and territories on this planet that drive on the left. One of which is India, so in terms of number of people who drive on the left, it’s really isn’t the minority we might first think !

I believe the US should do MUCH more to help their service personnel prepare for this.

As Brits we spend a lot of time on the ‘wrong side’ of the road whenever we visit mainland Europe or the US etc.

There are many tricks that help, putting brightly coloured tape on the near side mirror on a motorcycle and remembering “tape to the kerb”... putting a big arrow on the dashboard of your car pointing to the curb... A big sign on your dashboard... having a little routine to repeat “keep left” to yourself 20 times before driving off, etc, etc.

It ain’t rocket science, and I struggle to understand how it is beyond the wit and ability of the US military / government !!
She was not an highly intelligent US personal, she married one, yes , but ...............
 
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I believe the US should do MUCH more to help their service personnel prepare for this.


It ain’t rocket science, and I struggle to understand how it is beyond the wit and ability of the US military / government !!

Completely agree , after all ,not all Americans have experience of driving in heavy traffic routinely found on UK roads still less of driving on the "wrong " side But ,they seem to manage it ok in Japan ,so why not here?
 
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While it is easy to say it should be simple to follow the road rules in different countries, the reality is the mind tends to drift into other thoughts when doing something routine and boring. It is amazing how much of the tasks of driving are pushed out of the conscious mind and left to the lower level autonomic layer of the mind. Ive experienced this myself while in England after a few days of driving about. On a residential road I suddenly found myself facing an oncoming car and took me a second or two to understand why it was blocking my progress. Mind wasn't in gear.
 

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While it is easy to say it should be simple to follow the road rules in different countries, the reality is the mind tends to drift into other thoughts when doing something routine and boring. It is amazing how much of the tasks of driving are pushed out of the conscious mind and left to the lower level autonomic layer of the mind. Ive experienced this myself while in England after a few days of driving about. On a residential road I suddenly found myself facing an oncoming car and took me a second or two to understand why it was blocking my progress. Mind wasn't in gear.
Yep it's easy to understand
But the woman left the country that's the problem
 

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The problem is the CPS - would they have gone for dangerous driving as the charge (jail time) if it was not such a high profile case or the more reasonable careless driving(fine and ban plus recompense to family)
Would you return to a country to face a charge that could see you imprisoned - I don’t think many of us would.
Yes she was wrong to leave the U.K. as she did but the circus which followed the incident would not convince anyone to come back. The media have once again whipped up a pantomime villain instead of allowing justice to prevail.
 

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Unless she was deliberately driving dangerously, for example racing, this was a lapse of concentration, so would almost definitely be a case of ‘driving without due care and attention’. Which is a points and fine offence.

I think the comparison is a bit rich John...
 
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The problem is the CPS - would they have gone for dangerous driving as the charge (jail time) if it was not such a high profile case or the more reasonable careless driving(fine and ban plus recompense to family)
Would you return to a country to face a charge that could see you imprisoned - I don’t think many of us would.
Yes she was wrong to leave the U.K. as she did but the circus which followed the incident would not convince anyone to come back. The media have once again whipped up a pantomime villain instead of allowing justice to prevail.
If I'd done what she did I would not have left/fled the country
Everyone should face the concequences of their actions
Think of the blokes family!
 
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If I'd done what she did I would not have left/fled the country
Everyone should face the concequences of their actions
Think of the blokes family!
She may have had little or no choice as to whether she left the country. The decision may have been made by US authortities .But it would scarcely seem to be an isolated incident . Better training is surely called for.
 

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If I'd done what she did I would not have left/fled the country
Everyone should face the concequences of their actions
Think of the blokes family!
I agree Baz but the chance of a fair trial is low now that the red tops are baying for blood.
 
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Harry Dunn's family have now dropped plans to sue the US government over the accident.
 
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At long last, Harry's hit and run killer, if you can call her that, Anne Sacoolas has admitted that she was on the wrong side of the road for about 20 seconds. Just as worse was that it took an Ambulance 43 minutes to reach Harry, because it was , I quote, "wrongly categorised " by the ambulance service. His injuries were listed as category 2, requiring an ambulance within 40 minutes instead of category 1, which should see an ambulance arrive within 7 minutes.
 

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Like I have said before on this thread is she has to live with it for the rest of her life and now she has finaly admitted to her mistake, maybe its eating away at her, maybe time to forgive but never to forget and you can't blame the Ambulance service if they got the wrong information.

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Like I have said before on this thread is she has to live with it for the rest of her life and now she has finaly admitted to her mistake, maybe its eating away at her, maybe time to forgive but never to forget and you can't blame the Ambulance service if they got the wrong information.

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she has to live with it. bet young Harry would like that chance. she didn't have diplomatic immunity, she should face the charges. No excuses
 

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she has to live with it. bet young Harry would like that chance. she didn't have diplomatic immunity, she should face the charges. No excuses

Of course she should face chargers as I am saying she has to live with her demons from it, but she had help to get out of the country so that loop hole should be closed that made it happen.

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Yep it's easy to understand
But the woman left the country that's the problem
It's not the first time that US personal caused deaths and subsequently scarped the country, in 1998 an American military plane flew too low and cut the cable of an alpine lift, 20 people died. This left strained relations between Italy and the US, as they were put on trial in the US and found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter and negligence homicide, but were found guilty of obstruction of justice and conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman for destroying the videotape from the plane.
Re; Cavalese cable car disaster. 1998.
 

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It's not the first time that US personal caused deaths and subsequently scarped the country, in 1998 an American military plane flew too low and cut the cable of an alpine lift, 20 people died. This left strained relations between Italy and the US, as they were put on trial in the US and found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter and negligence homicide, but were found guilty of obstruction of justice and conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman for destroying the videotape from the plane.
Re; Cavalese cable car disaster. 1998.
Yep I remember that one
 
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