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Arrr ok!
Could it be the side stand switch? If so any ideas how to test it?
Could it be the side stand switch? If so any ideas how to test it?
961 not starting after winter layup
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Relays can click but not make a connection if the points inside are worn, dirty or broken, suggest you take the injection pump relay out and fit a replacement relay.
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You said the alarm had an 'immobiliser' function, were you told what circuits were immobilised? Often it is at the discretion of the alarm fitter, a fuel pump is a good one to pick and I did the same on a classic car of mine.
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Hate to be another voice in the wilderness, but since you had the tank off, did you recheck to make certain the fuel pump connector is fully connected and tight?
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Yes , You need an ohmmeter and behind the primary case at the rear of the primary case is the plug running down to the switch . But like others have said so long as you are in neutral ? The side stand switch will not stop the pump to prime , but it will stop spark. You have both no fuel pump prime and no spark. But go ahead and test it to be sure. Find out how the immobilizer ties in to the system.
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Andrew,
This might be a bit random - is the bike in gear? Can you roll it forward without pulling the clutch?
I know this sounds patronising but is not meant to be, mine wouldn’t start at work one day - the neutral light was on, everything as is should be but the gear was not fully in neutral.
John
This might be a bit random - is the bike in gear? Can you roll it forward without pulling the clutch?
I know this sounds patronising but is not meant to be, mine wouldn’t start at work one day - the neutral light was on, everything as is should be but the gear was not fully in neutral.
John
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Im going to try and get the alarm guy to visit and see if anything is up there.
The connectors under the tank are all plugged in correctly.
The connectors under the tank are all plugged in correctly.
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Do you know where i can get replacement relays from?
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Don't own a 961, there will be a part number on it, google the number.
Re connectors, you should be able to part insert the relays and take a voltage on a multimeter to see if any current is flowing through.
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There was a thread on this a while ago . There is a Honda part number that works perfect , I personally would not use the OEM relays . Search relay forum member Trevorpacker posted this relay he found , Great find Trevor !.
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Go here for info : https://www.accessnorton.com/posts/443246/
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Just replaced a head lamp relay the one of 2 under the tank. The original relays were made in India I have replaced with a Hella 4 RD 965453041 ( made in China) I aim to replace all the relays which seem to be all the same. Cost 15 gbp
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Hi all, ive checked the relays again and they are ok as tried them in each port to see if they work!
The tilt switch is giving me a reading of 15 to 19 in the multimeter when testing continuity. It doea the same if its on its side or flat.
The tilt switch is giving me a reading of 15 to 19 in the multimeter when testing continuity. It doea the same if its on its side or flat.
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Is this the actual tip over sensor ? Not the solid state multi pin flat pack ? The tip over sensor uses a 3 pin/wire connector and has a plastic body with up written on it. This device has a pendulum magnet arm and IC's inside so without having it powered on the readings may not be useful. It is held on with two bolts and may be covered from sight by the OMEX ecu on your newer bike. The flat pack takes inputs from the stand switch and neutral switch etc to provide power to the power down relay on the OMEX bikes along with inputs from the tip over sensor. I want to say that the red wire supplies the 12v all good power to that power down relay. Not sure though. I have successfully cheated the tip over sensor with 2 resistors 100 to 150 ohms each and they tie back to the center pin on the tip over sensor. It works the same way with OMEX or SC ecu. Do a search for tip over sensor . Better yet , bring your bike to a reputable Norton shop that has the OMEX cable and software to analyze the system . I only say this because I would like it if you kept the bike and liked it rather than become frustrated or angry and hate it. If anyone has a source for this tip over sensor could they let us know ? If mine goes bad again I will be forced to cheat it for good this time because I can't find the spares source.
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Hi there,
Thanks for your message! It is the actually sensor with UP on it.
The side stand and clutch are ok as its cranking over and i tested the switches.
I spoke to Krazy Horse in welling and he wasn't sure what it could be. But said they couldn't really help without support from the Norton Factory.
I do like the bike, but it is starting to frustrate me.
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it’s time to start checking voltage and ground at all wires. In the end, it’ll be something stupid.
do you have a shop manual with wiring diagram? I would first unplug the harness from the ecu and do a continuity test on each wire from ecu to sensor, fuse, relay.
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So Krazy Horse can't do a system scan for you ? Maybe a different dealer then ?
Are you able to get a 961 Euro4 electrical schematic ? If you get this and share it with us I will try and help trace it further . If you can use a multimeter and or a 12V test light we can proceed. I do not have a Euro4 schematic.
Are you able to get a 961 Euro4 electrical schematic ? If you get this and share it with us I will try and help trace it further . If you can use a multimeter and or a 12V test light we can proceed. I do not have a Euro4 schematic.
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