961 Idle air valve

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Hi all, does anyone know of an equivalent part for the Lowe 57177 IAC valve? Looking at what’s out there, those fitted to some Renaults (such as Clios & Meganes etc) look identical & they are commonly available. Is anyone able to confirm their suitability or otherwise for a 961 please?

Many thanks.
 
Hi Deano,

I did a quick search and one this site it lists some equivalents, and the Renault Clio and Megane are mentioned, so I would say you're right. Is the Loewe unit hard to obtain?


Renault: 820003354010
Meat & Doria: 84040
Siemens VDO: D95177

The I searched on eBay for 820003354010 and you're right, it looks identical.

If you get one and it works ok, please let us know and I can get the parts list updated.

Cheers,

cliffa.
 
I've fitted a Lowë Renault Clio one before, worked well. Kinda wished I tried a different brand though, Siemens maybe, just to see how that gets on, especially as the Lowë one's are known to act up
 
Thanks Cliffa, that’s good info.

My reason for asking is I think mine may possibly be suspect & I was struggling to find the Löwe one. I’ll keep you posted if I have any joy with an alternative although my idle issue could yet be unrelated to the IAC valve. But it sounds like Stu has already had success with an alternative in any case.

Cheers!
 
What year is your 961? Are all years the same? Keeping my own notes for my 2016
 
I ordered my Lowe 57177 from Germany . Also , I have tried at least two other brands , well off brands so to speak. And they did not work well . But If they work for you great ! .. I tried to find a Siemens but could not ! So I bought two replacements from Germany actual LOWE brand from Berlin Auto Parts ( something like that ) . The link below has the LOWE brand . :

LÖWE automobil 57177.0 Idle Air Control Valve IACV

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mean gene said:
What year is your 961? Are all years the same? Keeping my own notes for my 2016
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My bike is a 2014 Sport. I doubt that part of the design changed much, if at all, over the years but I wouldn’t like to say for certain. Perhaps someone can confirm?
 
Tony A,

I guess as with a lot of parts, quality is everything here. It seems there are a lot of different makes of this IAC valve out there ranging from unbranded ones for well under £10 up to top brands such as Magneti Marelli or VDO etc for several times that & everything inbetween. I don’t know how Löwe would compare vs Siemens/VDO but you would hope either would be better than a cheap Chinese copy.!
 
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Deano said:
Tony A,

I guess as with a lot of parts, quality is everything here. It seems there are a lot of different makes of this IAC valve out there ranging from unbranded ones for well under £10 up to top brands such as Magneti Marelli or VDO etc for several times that & everything inbetween. I don’t know how Löwe would compare vs Siemens/VDO but you would hope either would be better than a cheap Chinese copy.!
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Try this link :

IACV LÖWE automobil 57177.0 Idle Air Control Valve Fuel Injection Automotive

0 Idle Air Control Valve (IACV): Idle Air Control Valves - ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases,Buy LÖWE automobil 57177.
www.oconnells.se
 
Stu Bodycote said:
I've fitted a Lowë Renault Clio one before, worked well. Kinda wished I tried a different brand though, Siemens maybe, just to see how that gets on, especially as the Lowë one's are known to act up
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What are your thoughts on removing this valve..
 
I've fitted a Lowë Renault Clio one before, worked well. Kinda wished I tried a different brand though, Siemens maybe, just to see how that gets on, especially as the Lowë one's are known to act
TonyA said:
I ordered my Lowe 57177 from Germany . Also , I have tried at least two other brands , well off brands so to speak. And they did not work well . But If they work for you great ! .. I tried to find a Siemens but could not ! So I bought two replacements from Germany actual LOWE brand from Berlin Auto Parts ( something like that ) . The link below has the LOWE brand . :

LÖWE automobil 57177.0 Idle Air Control Valve IACV

Buy LÖWE automobil 57177,0 Idle Air Control Valve (IACV): Idle Air Control Valves - ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases, Savings and offers available save money with deals Exclusive, high-quality The Hottest Design Discover The Newest Design In Our Fashion Shop! daniel-fast.com
www.daniel-fast.com
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Pretty sure I bought my last Lowe one for customers bike from Autodoc in Germany.
 
MAK said:
What are your thoughts on removing this valve..
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Well, the old sva bikes didnt have one, you just had to hold the revs a little whilst it warmed up. Ducati dont use one on their 916/748 models....they have a secret little button on the throttle twist grip, that manually holds the butterflies open a touch for a fast idle.
On a project I'm building, that a few of you have seen, Ive ditched the idle control valve and fitted a Ducati throttle. Touché used to block up the control valves pipe and reset the base idle via the stop screw. You'd also need to reset the tps if doing this. Its only job is to provide a fast idle during warm up and to control idle during various loads. I cant really recommend its removed, as you then need to alter the adjustment screw thats set by Jenvy with a big "do not adjust" warning given by them...but I did
 
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MAK said:
What are your thoughts on removing this valve..
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It has been done very successfully…

Idle problem solved

New thread to make the topic a little easier to find in the future. As some of you know I've been trying to understand and fix the idle problem in this Thread. Short story, discovered cylinder 2 steals fuel from cylinder 1 at idle via the IAC pipe that links both throttle bodies. This can cause...
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cliffa said:
It has been done very successfully…

Idle problem solved

New thread to make the topic a little easier to find in the future. As some of you know I've been trying to understand and fix the idle problem in this Thread. Short story, discovered cylinder 2 steals fuel from cylinder 1 at idle via the IAC pipe that links both throttle bodies. This can cause...
www.accessnorton.com www.accessnorton.com
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Very many people have done it . If you are going to remove it , then certainly block the passage between.
 
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Stu Bodycote said:
Well, the old sva bikes didnt have one, you just had to hold the revs a little whilst it warmed up. Ducati dont use one on their 916/748 models....they have a secret little button on the throttle twist grip, that manually holds the butterflies open a touch for a fast idle.
On a project I'm building, that a few of you have seen, Ive ditched the idle control valve and fitted a Ducati throttle. Touché used to block up the control valves pipe and reset the base idle via the stop screw. You'd also need to reset the tps if doing this. Its only job is to provide a fast idle during warm up and to control idle during various loads. I cant really recommend its removed, as you then need to alter the adjustment screw thats set by Jenvy with a big "do not adjust" warning given by them...but I did
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Hi Stu , If you have an SCS ecu , unlocked typhoon or Delta 400 no problem with the TPS reset. Can you make these changes on the OMEX ecu ? For most owners its hands off with the OMEX. Do you access to the OMEX ecu ?
 
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Is it not the case that the TPS resets it’s zero value every time the bike is fired up? Or am I getting my wires crosssed (no pun intended!)?
 
I blocked the IAC valve tube and set the idle at 1200 rpm, the bike is now much better.
If you want to keep the IAC, a compatible item is Magneti Marelli 8001063373638
 
Deano said:
Is it not the case that the TPS resets it’s zero value every time the bike is fired up? Or am I getting my wires crosssed (no pun intended!)?
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What I have been seeing with my SC is that you establish a zero throttle voltage and a full throttle voltage in the SXTune. So after you have the throttle valves position set (for idle) there is a calibration and it captures those values. This is what I remember. There may be an auto zeroing feature , I don't use it.
 
TonyA said:
Hi Stu , If you have an SCS ecu , unlocked typhoon or Delta 400 no problem with the TPS reset. Can you make these changes on the OMEX ecu ? For most owners its hands off with the OMEX. Do you access to the OMEX ecu ?
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I've currently got only euro 3 omex access. My euro 4 has gone rogue on me with many errors on my laptop, and no ecu comms.
 
Stu Bodycote said:
I've currently got only euro 3 omex access. My euro 4 has gone rogue on me with many errors on my laptop, and no ecu comms.
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Well then , If you get any SCS ecu work you won't be locked out. Just buy the cable and adapter for SCS Delta and software is free download .
 
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