109 mph IOM lap with license plate and blinkers

Bout Time someone tried it with one of those 961s , if we havnt said it before . :wink:
 
Steve Parrish rode a hotted up 961 around the iom two years ago. I can't recall the exact speed, it was respectable, mid nineties I believe.
He wants to give the Triumph another go with fairing and race tires fitted. He's also planning on upping the gearing as he was topped out and bumping into the Rev limiter at 140 mph in sixth.
Glen
 
This Bloke had the same problem , but I think at 145 , 1 tooth down . :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2PsB6HnFyw

Not Deridng Mr Parish's efforts , on the overweight barge :x
but sometime I mull on what oneofthese'd get nowadays on the smoother stickier circuit .

Then if ititdad stickier tyres , two more gears , disc brakes .....

Be good to asee one thrashed mercilessly by a top line nutter round there , again .

Cant find the 99.99 Triumph onathe u tube , with all the modern tripe cluttering it up .

109 mph IOM lap with license plate and blinkers


109 mph IOM lap with license plate and blinkers
 
It's a long, long way from 99.9 to 109 at the tt. We have to remember that Mr. Parrish retired thirty years ago. He' ll be an Old Age Pensioner next year!
A racer well past his prime rattling off a 109 mph lap on a common road bike is remarkable.
 
worntorn said:
It's a long, long way from 99.9 to 109 at the tt. We have to remember that Mr. Parrish retired thirty years ago. He' ll be an Old Age Pensioner next year!
A racer well past his prime rattling off a 109 mph lap on a common road bike is remarkable.
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Once you got it you never lose it, at 58 now I am still riding the same as I was in my late teens and I am still keeping up so far :lol:

Anyway Glen hows the Thruxton R going.

Ashley
 
Matt Spencer said:
This Bloke had the same problem , but I think at 145 , 1 tooth down . :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2PsB6HnFyw

Not Deridng Mr Parish's efforts , on the overweight barge :x
but sometime I mull on what oneofthese'd get nowadays on the smoother stickier circuit .

Then if ititdad stickier tyres , two more gears , disc brakes .....

Be good to asee one thrashed mercilessly by a top line nutter round there , again .

Cant find the 99.99 Triumph onathe u tube , with all the modern tripe cluttering it up .

109 mph IOM lap with license plate and blinkers


109 mph IOM lap with license plate and blinkers
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I agree Matt, it would be very interesting to see a modern rider with modern tyres and suspension internal etc rider a well prepared replica of that and see what happened.

I think the speed would be well beaten. We can see that with the Manx's, today's boys are lapping faster than the GP heroes of old, I cannot believe it's cos they're better riders, it's the tyres and suspension and better road surface that makes the biggest difference I reckon.
 
ashman said:
worntorn said:
It's a long, long way from 99.9 to 109 at the tt. We have to remember that Mr. Parrish retired thirty years ago. He' ll be an Old Age Pensioner next year!
A racer well past his prime rattling off a 109 mph lap on a common road bike is remarkable.
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Once you got it you never lose it, at 58 now I am still riding the same as I was in my late teens and I am still keeping up so far :lol:

Anyway Glen hows the Thruxton R going.

Ashley
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I'm still enjoying it a lot Ashley, it's pretty hard to fault . The Thrux 1200 has my kind of powerband. It pulls hard right from low down, just like a Commando but x2. :shock:

Glen
 
Fast Eddie said:
Matt Spencer said:
This Bloke had the same problem , but I think at 145 , 1 tooth down . :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2PsB6HnFyw

Not Deridng Mr Parish's efforts , on the overweight barge :x

I agree Matt, it would be very interesting to see a modern rider with modern tyres and suspension internal etc rider a well prepared replica of that and see what happened.

I think the speed would be well beaten. We can see that with the Manx's, today's boys are lapping faster than the GP heroes of old, I cannot believe it's cos they're better riders, it's the tyres and suspension and better road surface that makes the biggest difference I reckon.
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They have moved up a little. The fastest lap ever recorded for an 86 bore Molnar Manx is 104 MPH.
Mike Hailwood won the Senior TT on a Norton Manx in 1961? His race average was 100.48, haven't found the number for his fastest lap in that race. Given that the Molnar Manxes are said to be making about ten bhp more than a Works Manx from 1961, and then adding in the improved course, better tires etc, it's not that much is it?
 
Well, earlier we said a 9mph increase was "a long, long way" so a 4mph increase had to be at least a long way!

But, hair splitting aside, I think we're saying the same thing, for modern lads to be beating the great Mike the Bike really is saying something. I just firmly believe it is NOT cos they're better riders than he! It's the better brakes, suspension, tyres, road surface and, last but not least, that extra 10bhp (if that's true).
 
Agreed.
Discussion of the modern developed Manx results with top young rider on board puts Steve Parrish's 109 mph Parade Lap in perspective- a great result for an old man out for a Sunday stroll on an overweight barge.

Glen
 
Was wondering if he had the ' race kit ' in it .

If we have a whip round for one , and ' wind him up ' a bit , things may improve . :p :wink:

Olde Perry was still racing at 80 , amoungst others . Pre War ' Dunlop Universals ' arnt recomended , however. evenon a Velo . :(
 
The race cam for the R was cancelled after the big
Harley/EPA fine in the US.
Supposedly it stole some midrange in favour of top end. Wouldn't want to do anything to take away from that magnificent midrange, so maybe it's just as well.
 
Bugg ua , BOTHER .

Looks like He still needs a few mph to match Hailwood on the Honda 500 . :shock:

Mind over matter there , Id think .. matter being the Honda . Must be slipping . I even used a capital H . :? :p

Makes you wonder if it was ' promo ' , rather tha P R . :( ( the race kit. were said to be awkward to aquire , back in the 60s too .
Youll need to look for the ' Back Door ' . They cant've meltewd em down yet . Tell the Boss I sent you . :wink:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd0Ic-EBSHg[/video]

A not so young knowledeable geezers grasp , on the 67 I.o.M. T.T. , some nice clear photograhy , and appears unbiased. Thusfar . :)
 
Parrish has already bested that with the 109 on the Triumph Street barge. Mike the bike set a lap record of 108.77 on the Honda in 67 and that record held for 8 years.

Glen
 
A friend mine raced a Manx on the IOM in the 60s. When I asked him how he liked it, he said 'when I first went there I did an 84 MPH lap, but if you keep going there you get faster'. What I don't understand is how riders can get their minds around that course, when I have trouble memorising every aspect of even our short circuits. Surely you cannot ride the IOM on a situationalist basis, taking every corner as it comes ? I know our Bill Horseman went there and won the Classic TT first time out, but he is very different to most of us.
 
acotrel said:
A friend mine raced a Manx on the IOM in the 60s. When I asked him how he liked it, he said 'when I first went there I did an 84 MPH lap, but if you keep going there you get faster'. What I don't understand is how riders can get their minds around that course, when I have trouble memorising every aspect of even our short circuits. Surely you cannot ride the IOM on a situationalist basis, taking every corner as it comes ? I know our Bill Horseman went there and won the Classic TT first time out, but he is very different to most of us.
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The good riders definitely memorise the course Alan, there is no way they could possibly ride it as fast as they do otherwise.

It still has to be one of, if not the most dangerous events in motorcycle racing though.

I built a bike to race at the Manx. They say one Manx event is equivilant to a years short circuit racing in terms of its toll on the machine, so my plan was to ride the bike on short circuits for a full season to test it out first.

That same year, my mate (an experienced Manx racer) was riding there and texted me from his hospital bed saying the ward "was like a war zone" with all of the casualties. He inadvertently had a rather profound effect on me because I thought "but it's NOT a war zone, it's an amiture event, done for a HOBBY"!! Why would blokes put their families at risk of being fatherless etc just for a hobby?! That same year,whilst I was mulling this over, John Lodder died there in practice! John was a very experienced Manx racer. His death really hammered home the point about just how dangerous it can be there. That sealed it for me, and I never did race there.
 
Fast Eddie said:
...... Why would blokes put their families at risk ..... His death really hammered home the point about just how dangerous it can be there. That sealed it for me, and I never did race there.
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My father used to race speedway "back in the day" ( just after the WWII ) and he told me that he had had aspirations to go to the IOM, before immigrating to the U.S. He said later he had a similar experience to yours Nigel, and he backed away from it too. -- he went on to live a long and full life.
 
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