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ariel twin in a triumph frame?

 
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iusedtolikehondas



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: ariel twin in a triumph frame? Reply with quote

any one here have experience, or seen an ariel 650 twin mounted in a triumph frame? i found an ariel twin, and a triumph frame and bits, all for a decent price, curious if the mating is going to be worth it?

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L.A.B.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ariel 650 (Huntmaster) twin engine was a fairly close copy of the BSA A10 engine.

Unity Equipe in the UK sells all sorts of conversion plates, so may have a set suitable for installing an Ariel engine into a Triumph frame?

Unity Equipe: http://www.unityequipe.com/
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Tulsaalva



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a collection of British bike logo lapel pins. Among them is a Triton pin. Was that a Norton engine in a Triumph frame? Was such a bike made commercially?

Al
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grandpaul



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are virtually an unlimited number of Triton variations out there, some VERY nice, some junk.

I'm currently building a Trump-Less, an '62 Triumph TR6SS 650 engine in a '66 Matchless G15 chassis.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tulsaalva wrote:
I have a collection of British bike logo lapel pins. Among them is a Triton pin. Was that a Norton engine in a Triumph frame? Was such a bike made commercially?

Al


Tritons were typically Triumph engines in Norton 'featherbed' frames.

After WWII, Formula 3 in England was 500cc, and the Norton 'Manx' was a superior engine to the JAP. Norton preferred to sell complete bikes, so racers in England bought Manxes, took the engine for their car, and sold the chassis, often with the gearbox. Since the Featherbed was the 'state of the art' in motorcycle frames in the '50s, hundreds - perhaps a couple thousand- Norton frames found Triumph or other British power.

Norton + triumph = Triton
Norton + BSA = Norbsa
Norton + Vincent = Norvin

The stereotypical cafe racer was the Triton.
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The Unapproachable Norton Commando

At the end of 1967 the Norton Commando was announced.

The Norton Commando was greeted with a certain amount of scepticism because on first sight the commando appeared to comprise of the old Norton Dominator twin cylinder engine mounted at an inclined angle in a set of new cylinder parts.

It was not realized that the new Norton Commando Isolastic method of engine suspension damped out all engine vibration and produced a machine which had uncanny smoothness for a vertical twin. In due course the critics were silenced and the Norton Commando had the distinction of being regarded as the first of todays so called superbikes. There can be little doubt that the original design concept of the Norton Commando has proved correct, since comparatively few modifications of any real consequence have been made since production commenced during 1968.

Now nearly 40 years later Norton Commando riders like us are a breed of our own, and as far as we are concerned its still more fun to go for a blat on the old Norton Commando, and fast. As a Norton Commando owner and enthusiast, my goal here is to promote and give credit to those who keep the Norton name going.

It is more deserving to give credit to the Commando itself, for after all these years it continues to be respected. The original Commando designers like John Favill are those who deserve the credit for developing this incredible motorcycle.

The Norton Commando Roadster and Interstate of the late seventies, never died. Although the Norton Villiers factory dispersed the tradition lived on. Today Kenny Dreer in the USA is developing the new 952 CC Norton. What a great looking bike this is, and its engineering is still based on the original layout. It will be interesting to see how the new 952CC Norton does in todays tough motorcycle market. One thing is for sure, I would own one if I could afford it.